You are exactly right, however I will add one thing to that. This attitude towards privacy and rights as if it is some sort of 'entitlement' is fatally flawed. They are also things that protect people from fraud and harassment. The same people attacking them probably don't realize they are cheering on organized crime via fraud as well. I think we are entitled to protect ourselves from crimes that can be committed from subverting rights and privacy even though I personally believe that the points you raise are vitally, and primarily, important.

Go right ahead, it will confirm to them you really are full of shit. Actually tell as many people as you can, that you know personally, so they know you how much of a dickhead you can be.

Feel free to humiliate yourself further.

Well the forces conducting the evacuations were also exposed, so you can tell them they will be exposed to radionuclide ingestion if they decide to move. Planning and reacting to logistical problems in an appropriate way requires you to use the resources you have available intelligently, therefore you can concentrate the right resources to the right place at the right time.

Many of these people are suffering radiation poisoning and I doubt many of them would have minded 2 days of inconvenience as compared to the permanent medical problems they now face.

There was some resistance.

The USS Ronald Reagan was there and offered the Japanese government assistance, however the government refused. Not unlimited resources, however they had reactor experts, helicopters and access to all sorts of equipment to help them overcome many of the logistical problems associated with destroyed infrastructure, such as roads. They could have quite easily flown the required batteries to the Fukushima plant, however they weren't even utilized and Japans response was to send the wrong batteries, via land and hinder the people doing the work. Sad really considering how much fallout the crew were exposed to, to render assistance, and refused because of Japanese pride and concerns about it's territorial sovereignty.

The Ronald Reagan, could have assisted in restoring the battery power to the control systems so that the water levels *inside* the reactor could have been assessed and action taken earlier to prevent them from exploding. Understanding the state of the reactor was the key issue at the time, which required batteries, not replacing 4KV switchgear.

The behavior bordered on criminal, when you assess it in hindsight. It has been revealed that the government agencies involved, including the office of the prime minister, were not keeping formal records so that they could cover their asses. This has denied all governments, who operate nuclear reactors, the ability to make systemic improvements in responding to nuclear accidents. Essentially the criminal negligence extended beyond TEPCO and the regulator, into the government itself.

One prime example of this is that the Japanese government did have a fallout predictions system that worked. When assessed later it was found to have located the key and highest areas subject to fallout. It was important because the government should have been able to tell people when to move and when to stay put while the fallout settled.

However, they weren't prepared to accept the recommendations of the very system they paid for (due to liability issues - IIRC) and evacuated many people, including an entire town through active fallout zones. We still have about 2-3 years before the direct exposure cases begin to become apparent. Even if they don't die, many lives have been destroyed and will be a burden on the healthcare system, if they are not simply ignored.

There are many other examples throughout the disaster and the Japanese government has effectively destroyed any possibility of introspection and because they were worried about their liabilities as individuals the world has lost a significant opportunity to capture knowledge that would improve response planning and lessen the impact of any potential nuclear disaster.

you still won't hear

You started the conversation by being rude, I made a point about AFF because it was a component of the legislation in a way to make it personal to you and it looks like it worked.

I threw you a rope and offered you an opportunity to state your case about the legislation being discussed or simply not reply so you could maintain your dignity. You chose neither. If you want to blame someone for making you look like a coward, and a fool, blame yourself.

This reveals the core of your reasoning. You make judgement based on things you assume and are wrong. A fundamental wisdom that is lost on you.

Based on our conversations I can surmise you are a condescending fool who rushes to judgement without any facts and speaks before you think. When called to defend your position you fold like a coward because, like the fool you are, you don't know when you should speak or just keep you mouth shut.

You are a bully. Your defining characteristic is that you are rude, uninformed, weak and, thoroughly unable to defend the bullshit you spout. When called on it you become belligerent. In person, you'll say you are joking, but you're not, you're trying to hurt because you are mean spirited, cruel and too much of a coward to face the hurt you cause people. The people around you hate you and you don't know it. Sadly, you think you are ok just the way you are.

Back to Xanadu for you Mr Kane, there is no hope for you.

blah blah blah. You have nothing to offer to elevate the conversation above the initial insults you offered even when handed an opportunity to do so. You had the option of being graceful by asking questions and instead you chose to attack me again.

I hope you have to endure a body cavity search one day and, with the snap of a latex glove think of me as I Viol8 you. You have become my bitch and every time you downmod me you will be more my bitch, my way to Viol8 you. You should really try to stop being an asshole.

There is nothing further for me to gain in a discussion with you because you are a fool and a coward.

There is no hope for you.

If I speak at one constant volume, at one constant pitch, at one constant rhythm right into your ear, you still won't hear. Or read, or learn for that matter.

Deniers are like the screaming child in the shopping centre, no one can ignore you and everyone wants to slap you.

Exactly. All the employers seem to have the attitude "well you love this stuff, so you would do it for free - so you must love working like a slave. If you don't like working like a slave then you can't be very enthusiastic or motivated".

I've long been coming to the conclusion that IT is now fucked however I've also found that the places with mature business practices and decent project management were the ones that offer the least stress. That's because those ancillary to IT were skilled enough to manage the stakeholders, so the only stress you were under was to perform.

Generally if I see an organization filled with a lot of young people and a disregard for experienced people, I run. You can tell what sort of organization it is going to be before even working there. The narcissistic boss, the lead tech bully, the general oppression of people with good ideas, the female office administrator who is just nasty, the 'it's just a job' people and the emotionally intelligent people who are generally liked but just passing through because they realized they made a big mistake taking this job.

Becoming in-demand and a indispensable problem problem solver helps until you can fire them, usually with a smug polite smile, helps you maintain yourself from a mental health perspective. This is because most of them are bound to fail and spend big trying to get good, so if you give them sincere advice that they ignore which costs them money, they will never ignore you again. If find if I maintain a 'I'm here to take your money from you' attitude I can maintain some separation from the assholes and still get some enjoyment from IT work.

Of course, at the core of this argument is *why* IT is so stressful, and it is because it has been invaded by a lot of clueless assholes. You also have to acknowledge your own propensity to assholiness, I know I can be an asshole, so try hard not to be. Get rid of the assholes from IT work and you can get good work done. If you are working with assholes, you'll spend most of your time stressing and dealing with them and their mistakes.

Asshole management is *the* most stressful part of IT work.

God bless America.*

*Even though I firmly believe the separation of church and state is vital and I would in no way impose religion on anyone.

I believe this is where I say, whatever.

No, they got that way by appealing to the naivety of people such as yourself with simplistic nationalism. Wrapped yourself in a flag lately? Do you think you're a patriot?

In other words, you've never read a single line of a proposed bill, even for your own country, you don't understand how laws are made and enacted and you have never written a single letter to a politician about anything. Your not interested in human rights and justice issues and the world revolves around you.

You get your news from mainstream media and anything outside of the scope of your expertise you are too mentally lazy to learn about.

Life, politics, what a fool thing to say, I wish I could share the irony. You have no idea what I have experienced. Don't get personal pal, I maybe excoriating you aggressively, but I'm not being nasty.

No, your a coward. It's that simple. There is no hope for you.

It interesting because it describes how unappealing your spineless position is. I suppose you need an explanation why you like being fist fucked, now that you're a grown up. Is the analogy 'adult' enough for you? Is AFF better for you? Daddy what does AFF mean?

Sure, why don't you tell me how I stand to benefit from these laws? As I am already bound by and, have read them. I want you to demonstrate to me how your point of view is somehow more enlightened considering that I analysed every line of the many hundreds of pages it contained and wrote to > 50 politicians about them, including specific part where I made direct written modifications to the act which were successfully included because even the politicians conceded the strip and body cavity search of minors, i.e under 15 were too unreasonable but not unreasonable for you, Daddy.

Does AFF makes sense now that I've explained it to you? Daddy.

I want you to explain to me how jailing witnesses of the arrest for 5 years for telling anyone they witnessed an arrest where someone was taken away under these laws, the suspension of due process, the inclusion of strict liability (which only applied to parking fines) for jail terms, the reversal of the presumption of innocence to the presumption of guilt, the reversal of the onus of proof onto the accused who has to produce evidence that they are mandated to give up to the state on arrest and the reversal of the presumption of innocence to the presumption of guilt is reasonable considering that with all these powers terrorism acts are still being commissioned?

Did you expect to be speaking to someone who has actually read the English version of the Act, kid? Let's say it was you being arrested under these laws, would you look forward to the AFF of a full body cavity search while you were in custody, boy. Which of these clause would you find the least appealing as you heard the *snap* of the latex glove going on the officers hand, would you be considering the rammifications of politics at hand or just the ramming hand? Since you approve of the act, I can only presume you approve of a AFF, lest you be a hypocritical pseudonym. Do unto others...

So, what do you suggest we change the record to? Please don't prattle on about muslim's, I'm well aware of their many human rights violations. Or fundamental terrorism for which I'm statistically unconcerned about and enough powers already exist to deal with it. Convince me, show me why stopping the opportunity for state based terrorism to be conducted is wrong. Explain to me why your way is better, that you are right and why you are not another useful idiot humming your favourite tune of silence.

Just be silent, you're good at it.

Well they'll be able to empathize with the situation. It is unlikely that you have ever written to a politician after reading a legislation like this to defend the remaining democracy. I have, so perhaps the best thing you can do is move to north korea or some other military dictatorship to cheer them on, or just STFU and let the rest of us spend our time ensuring the rule of law applies to all in democracies. After all, that is the point of a democracy.

What a mature reaction on your part, GTFU.

Yes, and step by step it incrementally becomes more of a police state until someone steps in, uses those powers and it becomes a dictatorship. Perhaps you are an optimist who trusts leaders to implicitly do the right thing. We've seen you before, you pick on the weak and oppressed while defending the powerful and corrupt, who think of you as a rather useful idiot.

I'd love to but people like you keep pressing repeat. I know the soundtrack. We've seen the movie so many times, the film is flapping on the side of the projector, the reel is over, the end is always the same, and at the beginning are people like you who allow power structures like this to evolve and dictators to exist. You are the domestic enemy we are warned about.

The song is always the same because you just aren't comfortable with any other tunes.

To put it another way you enjoy being anally fist fucked, so to make you feel normal, you want everyone to experience it if only they would just stop fighting and give in. After that, you don't know because you don't think that far ahead.

Because by the very doctrine rammed down our throats it's our freedom that terrorists hate. So if we were fighting terrorism we would be *increasing* freedom, not destroying it. Giving away our freedom increases terrorism because now society cannot discover what provoked the acts of terrorism in the first place.

Society in a free country will never be a safe place from anything, however it will be free.

You should be asking So how does giving away our freedom prevent people from committing acts of terrorism? The obvious answer is, it doesn't.