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Comment Re:Good grief... (Score 1) 1127

I was not implying she needed to put up with borderline sexual harassment. But one of the things you need to make candidates aware of is the environment has been guy orientated and that is no excuse to put up with something that makes her feel uncomfortable. I.e. she needs to speak out or inform her manager, often it is simple as a manager going: “Hey guys, knock it off it aint cool.” And it is solved. Most guys tend not to realize they are going over the line or approaching it. Sometime just a simple correction is all that is needed.

Comment Re:Good grief... (Score 5, Interesting) 1127

My current place of employment where I am in the process of departing from (my choice, they have no idea I am looking) we were a bunch of guys with one very laid back woman on our team. Sometimes we would step over the line; in fact my manager came out once and told a couple co-workers, “Guys, Sally (not her real name) is in the room!” We were lucky that Sally is extremely laid back and pokes fun back at us and would tell us when we cross the line. Fast forward a couple years, she is now in a different group (not because of us) and we hired new people (three women) to work on our team.

Of the new hires that are women, and one is very uptight, very demanding for a new hire of things being setup to accommodate her and her way of thinking etc. She refuses to join in on team discussions and she refuses to go out of her way to learn. She expects people to cater to her, change the way we act (she dislikes joking in the work place), she refuses our managers orders that I am the senior guy on the team and when he is not around she is to take direction from me. Because of her nature, her constant complaining to management about anything and everything they are afraid to manage her and set her straight and they let her through her probation period; the other female new hires are friendly, they joke around and like a laid back environment. Heck we guys listen to them talking about the guy they saw last night and sometimes across a border that should not discussed at work. We shrug it off, it happens and move on.

Why am I telling you this? Personalities can kill a work place, sure your team may seem to be a bunch of unprofessional dorks, but again what is your environment like? There is being unprofessional, then there is joviality, sometimes the humor crosses the line, let them know when and most adults are reasonable and apologize and clean it up. The fact of the matter is when you have a team that joke around, then it is a team that bonds and works well together and supports each other. Joking and social interaction builds camaraderie and it sets your team up to work well in stressful situations and work through the issue no matter how many hours it takes.

If you hired this new girl, then obviously you discussed the work environment and hopefully she interviewed with some of your team members. If you failed to tell her about the environment and you failed to let her know that if some humor makes her feel uncomfortable to tell the offender or you as her manager so you can tell them to knock off, then you failed in your job and have set your team up to fail. If the new hire understands this and is cool about it, then see how she works out and how she interacts – the one uptight woman I mentioned I told management to extend her probation period another three months and they did not. Once she crossed that three month barrier then the real complaining/whining began. DO NOT make this mistake, the probation period is there for a reason - they do not work out byebye.

Tesen

Comment Re:Biggest legal issue, IMO (Score 1) 741

Please do not use the "think of the children" defense. It is as bad as the "think of the terrorists" excuse they are using.

I am of legal age. I do not want to be felt up by a stranger. That should be enough to NOT do it. No need to use children as an excuse to stop something that is bad.

As parents my wife and I refuse to fly at the moment while these issues are being resolved. My two year old does not need exposed to xrays from these scanning machines and he does not need to be groped and violated because he might be a two year old terrorist. As adults my wife and I are more than comfortable slapping the hands or pushing away a TSA agent who violates our personal space (and deal with the consequences) but our son is not capable of making that decision and as his parents (his advocates) we're opting to make it for him by not flying.

So yes I am thinking of my son first and my wife and I's comfort come in second. You are not a parent apparently and if you were you would be in agreement that we need to think of our children.

Comment Re:Programming (Score 1) 799

My first low-entry-barrier BASIC program was in QBasic. I wrote a war-dialer (hey, I was 11 and had just discovered my first BBS and wondered what else was out there).

Logged connectable devices to a txt file, came back in the morning with my mum pissed as hell at me for tying up the phone all night and part of the morning. Didn't discover a lot, oh well. It was fun, taught me some stuff.

Tes

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