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Comment Re:"Celebrity"? (Score 1) 233

"Let me make the argument another way. Say your wife is sleeping with another man. Obviously, they are having an affair. However, you never agreed to such things, and never endorsed them. You can't sue for breach of contract, as that's not how marriage works. Such a thing is obviously wrong and unethical. Thus, there is a law intended to prevent such things."

A car analogy is also needed but I'll let someone else do that.

Comment Re:The BBC's funding is independent of Government? (Score 1) 703

Fair enough, I meant it's a crime under the Communications Act; it's a provision the Government can get rid of without affecting any other "crime".

Just wanted to quash the myth that the BBC's funding is independent of the Government, as pleasant as that myth might be :) Thanks for sharpening up my argument.

Comment Re:The BBC's funding is independent of Government? (Score 1) 703

Indeed, but that's not a point you made.

How did you quote me making it then? I am merely supplementing my original points which still stand.

I believe that laws have been passed by a legitimately elected government that make it a crime.

That's very interesting, but that doesn't my question; I wasn't discussing the rights and wrongs of the licence, only the facts concerning it. You agree it is a crime. That's all I wanted to know, because you also said

No. You'll pay a fine. The government won't even prosecute you. |it will be a private prosecution by TV Licensing.

which is ambiguous as to whether it's a crime or not. I'm sorry I misinterpreted you.

Let me repeat: I was only concerned with the statement made earlier, not by you, that

the government is not involved in the collection of the license [sic] fee

The poster who wrote that has had the good sense not to argue with me. Let me make it clear for you: the licence fee is a tax which right now is mandated by the Communications Act 2003. How is the Government *not* more intimately involved in the collection of the licence fee than, say, when you agree to pay for groceries at the supermarket?

Comment Re:The BBC's funding is independent of Government? (Score 1) 703

I was responding to the statement of your GP, viz. "the government is not involved in the collection of the license [sic] fee", which is demonstrably false. Are you disputing this, despite what I just said? Also, the licence fee ends up in the Government's Consolidated Fund, which is then disbursed to the BBC as the Government has deemed necessary.

Also, just because you brought it up: do you disagree that not paying the television licence fee is a crime? I would love to hear your justification for that one.

This issue is already complicated enough, so at minimum we need to make sure we are dealing only with facts.

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