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Comment Re:let me correct that for you. (Score 1) 619

You seem to have imagined a generalized assumption of my circumstances.
I associate cheating with an abstract action, I associate stealing with a concrete action. Either will put you in harms way, in arms reach.
Yes, the problem is age old and universal no matter what government, class, walk of life, religion it is filtered through. In my case, even with a job I had just acquired that paid MORE, I found myself in circumstances brought about by the actions of others that had me losing 100 lb in 3 months, not due to drug use, but starvation so my woman and child could survive as I plotted an escape by whatever means presented themselves, in an unfriendly environment. I stole, I conned, I inadertantly wound up mugging an attacker for his wallet and left him with no front teeth and a broken nose. unconscious in FRONT of a bar in a major city.I cheated many, some deserved it, some probably deserved it, some didn't. It was winter and our fuel was stolen, even as I dodged rent and saved every penny to get us and a few items to a safe place in a distant city. I gave up my possessions, used up my resources and we survived. In the good ol' U.S.
Yes, most of my "victims" were those who put me in my circumstances, others I just scammed money from. I've tried to pay it forward over time, but, if you are ever REALLY there, you will too.

Comment Re:let me correct that for you. (Score 1) 619

Yup, we should all just ditch the modern world with modern conveniences and technology as well as ANY of the current governments and go back to being nomadic tribesmen living off the land. That would take us back to a natural order of things, any other solution is just self-protective rationalization, doomed to failure, on the part of the chump.When we can all live simply and depend on each other, then we don't need money, government or class. When we all live with less, then there is no scarcity.

Til then we've all got bills to pay and blood to let in every aspect of life.
Bitcoin isn't the answer.
Credit isn't the answer.
Debt isn't the answer.
That leaves trading.
If you really want to eliminate a world that generates crapitalism,communistosis, socialist diseases and any other number of competitors for supremacy amongst cockroaches, we need to release some imagined needs and grow some brains.
See that happening?
We can't get past " DAD!, ROBBIE STOLE MY FRIES!" in our homes,round the globe. How are you going to balance the load for a world of strangers?
Most people couldn't survive a week without their current belongings. No knowledge of how to feed or clothe themselves without a government as a go between for mass trading.

          So we adapt as our ancestors did without the answer either. We cheat, lie, con, finagle and it can get so bad that you steal, mug, burgle,injure and could possibly kill, dependent on circumstances. All classes, with their own perspective on what level of living constitutes survival. Even non-capitalist governments are vampires depleting their constituents. Two classes there Government/Non government, predator/prey, parasite/victim.
Sad. True.

Comment Re:let me correct that for you. (Score 5, Insightful) 619

From experience; I would be willing to bet that ANYONE living with scarcity threatening day to day living is willing to cheat, lie, con, finagle and it can get so bad that you steal, mug, burgle,injure and could possibly kill, dependent on circumstances.
No real research in this story, just a reminder of mans state.

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