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Journal Journal: Was the Internet Created for Covert Domestic Surveillance?

"From its creation by DoD contracts and grants to research institutions, there have been aspersions cast by those easily dismissed as "fringe" commentators, on the nefarious, or at least covert, motivation to create the Internet. Conspiracy theory may have been met by reality in recent months with now commonplace reporting, first by Wikileaks and later, in the more extensive

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Jeremiah Cornelius writes: From its creation by DoD contracts and grants to research institutions, there have been aspersions cast by those easily dismissed as "fringe" commentators, on the nefarious, or at least covert, motivation to create the Internet. Conspiracy theory may have been met by reality in recent months with now commonplace reporting, first by Wikileaks and later, in the more extensive Edward Snowden revelations. It is still almost canon, that NSA mass-surveillance and warrantless information analysis occurred through coopting the burgeoning Internet, and diverting traffic in a way that is counter to the ideals of its creators and promoters. But what if the social, commercial Internet were always intended as a sort of giant honeypot? The idea would still seem farfetched, if it weren't recently disclosed by William Binney that the NSA is recording 80% of all US phone conversations — not simply metadata. Closer examination of the record shows that ARPAnet was being used to clandestinely gather information on the legitimate activities of US citizens — and transmit the information to the US Army Intelligence Command NSA — as far back as 1968! According to articles published in 1975 by MIT in "The Tech":


"via the ARPANET, a computer network connecting more than 50 government agencies and universities throughout the country. The network is funded by the Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA)... The information, according to intelligence sources, was transferred and stored at the headquarters of the National Security Agency (NSA), at Fort Meade, Maryland. The Army files were transmitted on the ARPANET in about January 1972, sources say, more than two years after the material — and the data banks maintained at the [Army's] Fort Holabird facility — were ordered destroyed."


MIT officials were worried 40 years ago, about this abuse of interconnected TCP communications and the complicity of their own research scientists. These concerns arose at the height of the Watergate fallout and downfall of President Nixon for illegal wiretapping and information theft allegations. The danger of Government "record keeping" was outlined by Senator Sam Ervin, in an address to MIT that was also profiled in the same publication. Clearly, this did not begin in the last decade, and clearly pre-dates the 2001 "Global War on Terror" pretext. It is important to remember, the NSA was an almost unknown agency at this time, and was chartered to strictly forbid intel on US citizens and those dwelling within US borders.

Comment Re:Feminist here (Score 1) 962

"Men too" is not an answer, because the harassment and threats that women face is disproportionate to what men face.

No, men face actual violence rather than mere threats. Have you seen assault numbers broken down by gender? Murder numbers?

How old where you when you first feared to be raped?

12, since you ask. I had to fight off four attackers. Luckily they were too focussed on achieving penetration to actually work out how to immobilise me.

A significant portion of women in the western world has endured sexual abuse and probably still bears the scars of that.

So I'm meant to do what about it exactly?

Yes, men are also abused. It is a problem, but it's nowhere as common and nowhere as socially acceptable.

Abuse of women is not socially acceptable where I live, where I work, where I go out at night. Maybe you should move to a better country.

Then again, maybe I should. Abuse of men is socially acceptable, when it's merely verbal.

Your experience is not the same as those of the opposite gender.
Deal with it.

I can and do deal with it. I'm just fucked off with the pretense that women have it so much worse.

Comment Re:Pft (Score 1) 962

He probably wouldn't have reported it. Men don't usually report minor (in the sense of no visible physical injury) incidents of assault and battery unless they were looking for any ammunition they could use against someone (i.e. they really hate the attacker and want to get back at them).

Yeah, I didn't report the assault I received from a woman in the workplace.

I did make notes of the incident and keep them offsite, for fear that she'd complain about me for my response to the assault - I turned and told her that if she did that again I'd punch her in the face.

She didn't report it, so I didn't bother to report it either. She was a very sexist person though.

Comment Re:Pft (Score 1) 962

Just because the average gamer is now mature doesn't mean that there isn't a sizeable population of wankers out there too.

Anyway, what's wrong with the word 'fuck'? I use it daily, in the office, and it would be sexist of me to try and avoid it in front of my female colleagues.

Comment Re:Occams Scalpel (Score 1) 962

Seriously if you have a giant beard, a chest like a bear and chop down trees on the weekend with your massive axe, haul them back home on your shoulders then break them over your head before lighting them on fire with a welding torch, I would say that's about the most manly thing one could do and no one is going to keep that in check.

Pretty much, yeah. Though I don't actually get to grow a beard unless I'm either on leave or deployed overseas, so I guess you got me there.

Of course, if you had a functional sense of humour you would have realized that my "manliness" comment was tongue-in-cheek. The fact that I do cut down trees with an axe and light them up with a blowtorch is just an amusing coincidence.

Firstly, no chick ever grabbed your ass at comic con

Sure, just go ahead and deny my experiences. Next you'll try to tell me that I deserved it because I was wearing a kilt. Victim blaming is always popular, especially when the victim is male.

So the evidence is now so overwhelming that you cannot continue to deny the evidence, so you now move on to claiming it's somehow "insignificant".

I've never denied the evidence. You may have me confused with a strawman you constructed. If you're going to argue with him, why address your response to me?

Comment Re:Pft (Score 1) 962

That said, I'd imagine that penetrative rape - the type commonly suffered by females - is a lot more traumatic.

Assuming a completely unwilling and unaroused victim, yes, I very much suspect it would be. However, feminists and victim-advocacy groups have spent the last couple decades telling us that "rape is rape" and that they're all equally bad, so it would be a bit hypocritical for them to now start screaming "BUT WE HAVE IT WORSE!".

Comment Re:let me correct that for you. (Score 1) 619

You seem to have imagined a generalized assumption of my circumstances.
I associate cheating with an abstract action, I associate stealing with a concrete action. Either will put you in harms way, in arms reach.
Yes, the problem is age old and universal no matter what government, class, walk of life, religion it is filtered through. In my case, even with a job I had just acquired that paid MORE, I found myself in circumstances brought about by the actions of others that had me losing 100 lb in 3 months, not due to drug use, but starvation so my woman and child could survive as I plotted an escape by whatever means presented themselves, in an unfriendly environment. I stole, I conned, I inadertantly wound up mugging an attacker for his wallet and left him with no front teeth and a broken nose. unconscious in FRONT of a bar in a major city.I cheated many, some deserved it, some probably deserved it, some didn't. It was winter and our fuel was stolen, even as I dodged rent and saved every penny to get us and a few items to a safe place in a distant city. I gave up my possessions, used up my resources and we survived. In the good ol' U.S.
Yes, most of my "victims" were those who put me in my circumstances, others I just scammed money from. I've tried to pay it forward over time, but, if you are ever REALLY there, you will too.

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