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Comment Re:Paging Arthur C. Clarke... (Score 1) 534

" And that's assuming that the English translation is actually 100% faithful to the original meaning, which I doubt."

From what I've been told, copies of the Bible are pretty darn accurate. One of the values of the Dead Sea Scrolls was demonstrating that the words hadn't changed significantly over the centuries.

As for the translation, the tough part on this particular subject is likely that the language didn't provide for distinctions between "Earth" and "other planets' since no other planets were known to exist by the people who spoke the language that was first used for writing down Genesis. All they knew was that there were points of light in the sky. A planet was just a point that wandered as opposed to one that remained still.

Comment Re:Yawn... (Score 1) 534

I won't address whether or not they are headed for Heaven, but simply note that you can't have a coherent discussion about a religious grouping of peoples if you're not going to group them based on their religious beliefs.

Imagine you're doing a study of mice and you take measurements to find that 0.00001% of them are over 200 pounds! When someone asks you how you were deciding whether each specimen was a mouse you say "we'll in many cases we just asked, and some frat guys in Mickey Mouse ears assured us they were mice, so we included them in our measurements even though they don't fit the 'traditional' views of what a mouse is or should be."

Comment Re:ET would disprove God (Score 1) 534

Your quote from Genesis refers to all things "on earth". It doesn't mention giving man dominion over outer space (it mentions the sun and moon, but doesn't say anything about giving man dominion over them). Psalms was written much much later and is mostly (entirely?) poetry. You can expect a little poetic license. I don't know of anywhere that the Bible discusses what we should do with outer space and any aliens we find. By extension of the general themes of the Bible, I would expect we should do our best to use the resources of outer space wisely for the good of all man our posterity. And I would expect that we should treat any intelligent aliens well. What might be tricky, for Christians and non-Christians alike, is if we explore and encounter aliens who a lot smarter than apes and dolphins, but a lot dumber than _most_ humans.

Comment Re:Note: Theologians (Score 1) 534

So while the Pope and Dalai Llama might be willing to welcome ET with open arms, wingnuts like Westoboro Baptist are going to have apoplectic fits about "devils" and "demons."

The Pope has like a billion followers and Westboro has like 20, right? So we're in pretty good shape.

Comment Re:Average I.Q. (Score 1) 534

There is a lot of wisdom built into many of the world's theistic religions. A low IQ person without this wisdom is less likely to survive, to start a family, to support that family, etc. For a high IQ person the wisdom can still make a difference but they are more likely to be able to accomplish goals despite the lack of received wisdom.

So perhaps it isn't a matter of high-IQ people becoming atheists, it is a matter of low-IQ theists being less likely to take themselves and their offspring out of the gene pool.

Comment Re:No surprise (Score 3, Interesting) 224

"Hell, if I could headbutt another human into oblivion for a mate, I would too. Here's the funny thing folks, humans are animals too! We have all the same urges and evolutionary pressures,"

As any male should know who went to high school. What do you think all that bullying was about? Guys were showing their dominance to win females. Those same urges were why it was so hard for the guys being picked on to just shrug it off or ignore it - how can a male shrug off being humiliated in front of potential mates?

Comment Re:No surprise (Score 5, Interesting) 224

You're right. In a one-on-one fight there is some sense in not killing your rival if he's willing to back down so that you don't have to expend extra energy trying to finish him off.

But when the battle becomes group against group the advantage of mercy is less clear. An enemy left alive has more choices. Rather than accepting that he can't defeat you he may come back with larger numbers. He may jump up and hit you from behind as soon as you turn to battle one of his companions.

In an environment of tribal warfare, it doesn't make sense to kill your local intra-tribal rival because he's likely to be your ally in the next inter-tribal battle.

Comment Re:Not a problem... (Score 1) 326

That assumes that all those environments are pointless wastes of space, unfortunately that premise isn't true- those areas of land serve important purpose for example the sands of the Sahara blow across the Atlantic and fertilise the likes of the Amazon rainforest.

A lot of people say "Why don't we geo-engineer the Sahara to make it tropical forest again!" but it becomes almost a zero-sum game, as you grow forests in Africa you decrease the fertilisation of the Amazon and so growth is stunted there in turn.

You're saying Saharan sand is good fertilizer? I wouldn't have though it was true, but if it is I have to wonder if it opens up an opportunity. We take sand from the Sahara to fertilize lands elsewhere - taking it all from one place to begin with. Once we've dug enough sand out to make an area below sea level, we can flood it with water from the Mediterranean Sea.

Benefits:
* More fertile land throughout the world
* A new sea where fish can grow.
* A way to slow or even reverse the rise of the oceans by putting the excess water in the new sea.

Am I crazy? Why?

Comment Re:Not a problem... (Score 1) 326

We can debate if cities have higher crime or not. People in cities tend to live longer lives - at least in developed countries. So I am not sure what to make of your dirtier and dangerous point.

Go to a city and sniff. You can smell how dirty they are. I was in NY (Manhattan) a while back and the smell of trash was quite common even in areas that seemed to be quite nice and expensive.

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