Anything conducting will do, but Aluminum is a lot less effective than Copper or even Gold and forget about foil. A nice general-purpose HF box will be 0.5 to 1mm of copper with tin(Sn)-plating so it can be soldered well.

I think it has moved far, far beyond that and the systemd folks are enemies of choice in Linux. As choice is a core principle in Linux and FOSS, these people are enemies of Linux itself.

And different from you, I see absolutely nothing limiting the useful lifetime for init. In fact, it will likely be good until computing changes completely, and that may be centuries in the future.

That is not what I said. I never claimed that rsyslogd cannot cause corruption. I just claimed that there are not-so-rare cases where rsyslogd and alternatives work, while systemd causes corruption. In addition, the corruption by rsyslogd is usually what you describe, namely things cut short. With the binary log-format from systemd, the damage is far more extensive, so, yes, rotating them is "right", but having binary logs is deeply wrong in the first place.

My money is on political. Interestingly you will find many systemd advocates that will claim what I posted is completely wrong, but will not be able to give any good reasons.

You obviously have no idea ho easy it is to identify people once you have a warrant.

I fully agree. This is not about good engineering, this is about pushing things on users by force.

Again that "speed" fallacy. If you need to look into the syslog, then you are debugging a problem. Speed is pretty immaterial. Completeness is critical. But it is no surprise that the systemd-crowd does not understand the purpose of logging. I mean, they even had a major run-in with Linus because they have no clue about the established ways logs are handled. (And no, deviating from them unless there is a real need is not called "progressive", it is called "stupid" and "arrogant".)

+1 Funny!

Hahahahahahaha, just thinking that somebody could actually be this cretinistic made my day. Unfortunately, I guess you are a honor-less paid-for liar, and that is just sad.

Simple: I am not against progress if it has merit. Systemd has none.

Init is still good for many applications (and completely satisfactory for server use). If somebody tries to prevent me from using it or to make that hard, then these people become an enemy. The systemd crowd qualifies.

I think for systemd it is at least 50% "I am being paid to mod this down". The time-patterns of negative moderation with systemd are very suggestive.

Indeed. Good point.

Thanks.

As to server vs. "laptop" distro, I have absolutely no issue with that. I could then put the server distro onto my laptop and be free of systemd. As I do not use all these newfangled window managers anyways (fvwm for 25 years now, has everything I need), I care very little about what "desktop" comes with a distro.

Last time I posted this, It went from +5 to 0 in about 12h, then it went back up to +5 in the next two days. I guess the paid-for moderators have a limited attention span, while the moderators that are actual human beings with personal integrity and a working mind do look at thing even days later.

It does serve a purpose though: It becomes very, very obvious what is going on and this commercial "opinion creation" alone is a good reason to be very, very suspicious of systemd. There is obviously something these people desperately need to hide.

I do not think these people earn much though, I expect that most sell their personal honor very cheap.