Thus the invention of the "mobile version", which I think generally works out a lot better than a page designed to serve both (and _way_ better than a mobile version designed to look ok on a desktop).

But that said, I don't do much web dev. I'd certainly never do it professionally. Not just because I think it's an absolute mess of an industry, but because my skillset in that area is about 10 years out of date (as you probably guessed) and was never that solid to begin with.

It _kinda_ does if you do as was said and define all the common properties for both and then the specific properties for each individually.

It's not really inheritance as you would find in c++ or java, and not nearly as flexible, but it is kinda there.

I still just use tables when I delve into the wonderful world of web dev. CSS has replaced coloring and styling of text, but positioning.. screw that. Proper or not, tables worked fine then, and they still work fine.

That's actually no longer totally the case. There is even a comment in the code:

That said, I totally agree with everything else you said. CSS is an example of fixing a barely existent problem by introducing a bunch of major ones. Tables worked fine, and could have been cleaned up or replaced/augmented by something made for layout.

I'm not a web developer, so maybe you grow to like it, but I always found div based layout unintuitive as hell ("oh, I need to float left this div to make it centered and set the block to inline"). I still just use tables any time I dabble with that stuff. They still work!

Bah!

To make things worse, I think I originally typed it as "myself", which I felt was wrong so I changed it to I. :(

Interestingly enough I don't think I'd use the word at all, but if I did, maybe.

I'd be more likely to say "The steam shovel belonged to her" vice "The steam shovel was hers" or "It's her steam shovel".

The problem is likely the same as on gentoo. Sure you don't have to install systemd, but a shit tonne of stuff will depend on it, or have dependencies that depend on it. I imagine the situation will be far worse on binary based distros as they tend to pull in a shit tonne of libraries and sometimes actual programs because of some minor but tightly coupled feature that didn't warrant a patch or a -non-<whatever> version. As I said in a prior post, on gentoo I had to straight up blacklist the systemd package and rely on portage failing because telling everything not to compile with systemd support isn't enough!

Slackware ditched gnome because it became too big of a pain to include it without including systemd.

The whole thing is just very anti-linux imo.

It's a trade-off. Mac, and to some degree Windows, benefit greatly from tight integration, but it comes at the cost of flexibility. The preference of flexibility over user friendliness and even functionality was what drew me to Linux and specifically Gentoo in the first place.

Systemd is probably not a terrible idea by itself, it just goes against the traditional linux mindset, which is probably why it's hitting so much resistance from people like me who bought into that mindset more so than the functioning system.

See the thing is I have no problem being either, especially not online.

And with any luck, someday you'll have a bootloader and a single binary named linux?

I'm sure they'll add a text editor sooner or later. The systemd operating system will rise if we don't slay it now!

I accept that we have rules, and when dealing with people I work with, or in situations where someone else is going to be harmed if I don’t represent myself well I definitely make the effort. Here though, the only person who looks stupid if I use poor grammar is I, so I don’t feel particularly bad about it.

And as said, if you and your like minded peers want to think of me as an idiot, I'm totally cool with that.

It's not about learning grammar. I know the difference between possessive it's and contraction it's. It's not even about the effort associated with choosing the right one. Using a possessive without an apostrophe feels weird and unnatural, and as grammatical correctness in a casual context isn't a priority for me, I chose not to. It's just one of many completely random and arbitrary things I decided to do, and then stuck with because I'm like that.

The problem imo is specifically that it's not just an init system. It's morphing into it's own thing that wants to take over all routine system behaviour, and the attitude of the devs is not encouraging (too lazy to find the link, but an oft quoted comment regarding log file corruption illustrates this quite well).

Linux (at least in my opinion) is all about choice. Don't like the way something works, use something else or write your own. Systemd is becoming a huge chunk that can't easily be swapped out for something else. I'm really against that.

And importance is relative. If you just want a functioning system, I agree that none of this is really that important and I'd probably just use ubuntu or mint or hell just windows or mac. I use gentoo specifically because I like my system "just so". Most people probably fall somewhere in between these points, with some past where they care about systemd and some not. I think this is perfectly healthy. If no one cared about init systems or boot loaders, no one would be developing them!

I made the decision long ago to always use it's regardless of situation or grammatical correctness in casual conversation. It's a policy that has served me well throughout the years.

I'm sure it occasionally gives off the impression that I'm an idiot to people who pay attention to these things, but I can live with that.

As a fellow gentoo user who is also trying to avoid systemd, we've got a hell of a fight before us.

Systemd wants to be it's own platform and it's snaking it's way into everything. Running a non-systemd system on gentoo, even where openrc is the default and systemd is just an alternative, is becoming a pain. I've had to rejuggle packages and use the blacklist for the first time in many years because (McBain voice) THE USE FLAGS, THEY DO NOTHING!

As more and more stuff adds dependencies on the systemd virus, it's just gonna get worse.

Our only hope is that systemd implodes and everything just goes back to the way it was.