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Comment Re: Even with the new outbreaks (Score 1) 580

You go ahead and listen to the people that tell you what to do. They told you to avoid peanuts when young so you won't die from an allergic reaction. Well it turns out they created a bunch of allergic people who now have to worry for the rest of their life about dying if they touch a peanut. They certainly know what's best, don't they.

You can avoid every germ out there and we'll see who ends up healthier. I will take the germs, because that makes your immune system stronger.

Comment Re: Even with the new outbreaks (Score 1) 580

Right, in third world countries. How many die in countries with hospitals that can give simple things like fluids and antibiotics. . . almost none. That is my point. If they have to lie to you to try to get you getting the vaccine, then there must be some alternative reason besides it is just a good idea!

Comment Re:Sweet F A (Score 1) 576

The premise is that they are coming to Earth to attack it. They must have a reason to attack us if they are doing it, right? Then what could that reason be? Material, food (including us), planet to live on, possibly a few others. If they would like to live on what we would consider an inhabitable planet and want nothing from us, then they would not be attacking us in the first place and you missed the whole point of the question.

Comment But be sure to get any and all injections they say (Score 1) 80

But we still should all go out and get every damn flu shot that they say we should. Because even though there is fraud, it is still very sound science and there is no fraud going on. Their trust is and always will be at the highest levels. And if you don't have the required levels of trust then you must report for your social mind reconfiguration training.

Thank you citizens!

Comment Re: Its politics/emotions not intelligence level (Score 1) 580

I don't mean to imply that I feel that vaccines are not great things. I agree they did huge benifit to health and our society in general. In fact, I plan on getting my daughter immunized to some things.

When this measles thing started up in the news, I even thought it was time for MMR. But a little research and I find the stats they are touting all over the news are such misleadings that I feel they are lying about it. The death rate they give is for the world, where our country has nowhere near the problems with getting the disease.

So, if they are trying to mislead us that much, then I know it's for alternative reasons. Trying to cover for their horrible fuck-up with the flu vaccine, or they want to make even more money by telling us that it is going to need another booster to be truley efective. I'll save my limited number of injections for the truely serious.

Comment Re: Its politics/emotions not intelligence level . (Score 1) 580

The rate of measles infection was going down drastically before the vaccine was created. The antibiotics are for the secondary problems, not the measles. Better general health and healthcare will also have atbig impact on modern cases. Just because you aren't aware of the latest studies on the effectiveness of multiple vaccinations does not make it incorrect.

Comment Re:Your rights versus my rights (Score 1) 580

So why is it that I can't send my child to preschool with a peanut butter sandwich, but yet I am expected to respect your decision to send your unvaccinated child to be with mine?

If your child is vaccinated, then what is the problem? You do have faith in your leaders right. They would not lie to you and give you vaccines that don't work. So if your child is vaccinated then they are protected from all the unwashed masses out there and you should not have any fear.

That's not even counting the fact that the vaccinated people can become carriers and show either no symptoms or very mild ones. Then they keep going about their day as they infect many other people, while a sick person will be confined to bed!

Comment Re:Spectre of Autism... (Score 1) 580

Unfortunately, the success of vaccinations seems to have been blunted everyone's memory of why we did it in the first place.

Or perhaps it has made us forget how much of a little deal it was to start with. As I have been researching measles I have come to the conclusion it is another thing that is blown way out of proportion and it would be better to just get it rather than try to prevent it needlessly. Ask your parents how many of them and their friends got it and what happened to them all. Everybody got it! And nobody died!

Comment Re:Even with the new outbreaks (Score 1) 580

Your fatality rate is as misleading number meant to scare you. There are over 600 cases of measles each year in the US (going by 650 last year alone). In the last decade there have been only 2 deaths. That puts it much lower than your 0.1% number. In countries that don't have medical care it can be worse.

Comment Re:Its politics/emotions not intelligence level .. (Score 1) 580

Some might be straight out denying. Others see how the facts we are told about what is healthy have been wrong so many times we don't want to just believe any old crap being spread about by companies that make money from it. Eating fat will make you fat, eggs are bad for you, carbs are good, partially hydrogenated vegetable oil is the best thing ever invented for your health. Take antibiotics for everything, we don't have any gut bacteria or anything that is important for our health, and antibiotic resistant strains are not a concern. Well all these decades of taking their advice has led people down the wrong path and masses of people are sick and fat because of it.

This measles scare is just that, a scare. 50 something cases this year, 650 cases last year. I didn't hear about them. Measles is not a bad disease, our parents got it as a routine thing during their childhood. Very few turn serious or deadly, especially when you have modern medical care such as antibiotics. I have heard recently even the MMR is found to be not that long lasting and they are probably going to ask people to get it a third time. Plus, each time you get a vaccine they are less and less effective. People who get the flu vaccine each year are going to be in trouble when they are elderly and really need the extra protection if that is true.

It's like the chicken pox vaccine, which in a couple of generations will be just as scary as measles is purported to be. So they get everyone taking a vaccine for it, which runs out so you have to keep getting it. Or you just get chicken pox and get better. Then when you are elderly you get the vaccine for shingles. So you either take a vaccine your whole life, or just get it when you are old and your immune system is weaker. I'll opt for less crap being injected into my body, thanks! Besides, not getting sickness just keeps your immune system weak and screwed up. Some people have been cured of auto-immune diseases by getting a tape worm. If your immune system doesn't learn what it should be fighting, it will start fighting everything, even stuff it should not be.

Comment Re:More liberal than libertarian (Score 1) 580

But the peoples children who don't have the option to vaccinate will also be kept out of public schools. We can't really condone discrimination can we? So if the sickly and dying kids are not in school, then what harm is there for the opt-out crowd? That they make the vaccinated ones sick? Then that just shows the vaccine doesn't work. If that's the case then you really should not be getting it.

You do realize that the vaccinated people have been found to be much more harmful spreaders of the diseases, right? They don't get symptoms, or get very mild ones. But they are still carriers and pass it onto many more people than someone who is sick and stays at home. So I guess the vaccinated people should be held accountable for their actions when they infect others.

Comment Re:More liberal than libertarian (Score 1) 580

Why should everybody else be subjugated to medical procedures to allow some sickly person to exist where they don't need to be. If some kid can't get vaccines because of illness, then they should not be in school. If you want to exclude people without vaccines from attending school, then that includes the sickly one. I see no reason they should be allowed to attend if you are going to exclude the others. But once you stop them from going, then there is no reason for the others to be mandated to get anything. If you want to protect yourself and your children then go ahead. And that included the sick kid, they can stay home and out of public if they want to stay germ free.

This measles thing in the news is some sort of push to control us. Last year there was 650 cases in the US. Did we hear about them in the news? I sure didn't. This year there are 51 cases and it is all over the place. What is the big deal. Measles is not a dangerous disease if you have standard medical care. Sure, people in outback Africa will have more serious infections, but we have antibiotics and saline drips. Our parents got it as a routine thing and it didn't result in death and disability as the news portrays it. It was basically like getting chicken pox. Of course in another generation that will be a big scary thing also.

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