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Comment Re:what happens if a failed hack bricks the firmwa (Score 1) 77

makeing so that the car fails or goes into some kind of limited safe mode is successful hack? What if goes into a mode there you need to do a dealer only restore that they will not let anyone do other then the dealer and only after they verify that the owner is there to pick up the car when it is done. and that restore may come with a new $1000+ CPU / ECU with $250+ labor to install it?

Comment what happens if a failed hack bricks the firmware (Score 0) 77

what happens if a failed hack bricks the firmware in a way that the next person / group can't do anything more when it is there trun?

also I don't thing there is a way to do a full reset after someones trun is over.

What will they do if one team does park of the hack and an other does the other part will there be a fight over who do what % and who should get paid?

Comment Re:Turing test not passed. (Score 1) 285

There's been a movement recently suggesting that true AI can only exist in an embodied system. I initially thought that was bollocks, but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. You may be able to make a machine with the capacity to learn as well as a human, but without a means to "experiment" in the real world how would it ever learn about something like the behaviour of a bucket of water?

I have thought this might be true for a few years now. The human brain starts out not even knowing how to move the limbs it is connected to. It cannot process the visual information it receives. It has to figure everything out from experience with the world by initiating an action and seeing what changes happen to the inputs. And there are millions and millions of input signals coming in every second. From every touch upon the skin when the arm is moved and the nerves that give proprioception to the sense of air movement upon the hair follicles and the vision system seeing the arm move. There is just soo much data coming in that feeds the brain constantly. I think it is quite necessary to have all that for a machine to have intelligence.

Comment Re:philosophical discussion only not science (Score 1) 285

One of my friends is a philosophy post-doc and he told me many times that in philosophy the gold standard for intelligence is intelligent behaviour.

If intelligent behaviour was all that was required, then a person remotely connected into that computer could do the intelligent behaviour and you would be able to call the computer intelligent. I think more is needed than that.

It also isn't true that the Lovelace test is more rigorous. To pass it you must produce something truly original but presumably non-random. I can only say good luck getting any human to pass this test.

I don't understand what you think original means. I have seen my young daughter draw lots of original drawings over and over. She even created a bird-deer in some of them, deer with 4 long skinny legs with bird feet on the ends of them. I certainly didn't tell her about bird-deer. She created them in her mind, drew them, and then told us what they were. I would love to see a computer come up with something like a bird-deer. I guess something like Creatures or Spore might come close with the genetic algorithms or something like that.

Comment Re:philosophical discussion only not science (Score 1) 285

So, it's creative (I haven't told it how to choose), and potentially unexplainable (memory location may have been previously used by a totally different process if mem is wiped clean).

So not only have you proposed that random output is somehow to be described as creativity, you have also said this is unexplainable and then proceeded to explain how it works. Nice!!!

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