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Comment Re:Headline is lying... (Score 1) 72

Photographers? Talk about painters.

In the tomb of a Pharaoh (I think it was Rameses II), some of the painting was about his "crushing victory" in Qadesh. Turns out the "crushing victory" consisted in avoiding being crushed himself.

As long as there is a way to transmit information, there is a way of lying. News at 11.

Comment Slavery / Oppression? (Score 1) 213

Note: I do not condone slavery or appartheid as a form of politics, but it is just a theory for the results

Maybe what the researchers have found (given the history of humanity) is that in a country with several ethnics groups you can have a ruling elite that concentrates capital and act as a whole to keep their privileges, and an oppressed, cheap workforce without rights to be used as a source of "profits"

That said, anyway it probably is just a structural development; Great Britain and Germany in XIX century, and Great Britain and Japan in XX century could not have been any more homogeneous yet they did way better than said, the heterogeneous Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian and Russian empires.

Comment Re:Just wondering... (Score 1) 405

I understood that /. editors are not going to come to my house to execute me with the method I selected (why does this remember me "The meaning of life") so I will die of the usual heart attack, traffic accident, old age, etc.

So, I chose the coolest death I could think of (from an external point of view, of course).

That said, given your stance, why did you vote at all? Maybe if you hadn't voted you would have got immortality!

Comment Re:Futility at its purest (Score 1) 282

I think the whole point is if our time truly is meaningless, then this action doesn't hurt. We have nothing to lose, which means there is only potential to gain.

I will follow your logic and see how it scalates: If your time is truly meaningless, you should leave your job and family, go to live to the step of a granite mountain and start carving your name (or whatever inspired words you chose); this action doesn't hurt. You have nothing to lose, which means there is only potential for you to gain.

When I see someone doing things like that (ok, not exactly that, but trying to present themselves "for posterity"; look at political leaders for clues) I know that they are not doing that for posterity, but for the fuzzy warm feeling of being so "important" that the posterity "needs their words".

Comment Re:Futility at its purest (Score 1) 282

I'm trying to fill in the gaps here, but I'm having some trouble understanding. How would my argument no longer be valid? Let me try from one perspective, and let me know if I got it wrong.

You stated that

we are the universe, we are the consciuous part of it

. If this satellite is useful, it means that then we would no longer be alive, not to say conscious. It is like buying a bumper sticker that you can only put when your car is in the junk yard.

Let's say we all die. Does that make our existence any less meaningful? Possibly.

In the event, I won't care about the futility of existence because I will be dead. And, as I do know now that I won't care then, I don't care now. That does not mean that I would like to die now.

Also, who told you existence has(or has to have) a meaning (other than itself)?

I guess some people would say yes, and others would say no. I don't think there's a decisive way to prove one or the other wrong. I'd like to think there are two ways to think about life--either everything's futile or some things are meaningful.

On the scale of planets and galaxies, I existed for a short time--hardly any time at all. But I experienced it. These things did not. And even though I'll fade, and they'll stay for another couple billions years, I'd rather have known than not known at all. But each to his own.

That is not the issue being discussed. What the GGGP said (and I agreed) that the project is just an (expensive) form of a "I was here" graffitti... and has the same uses ("hey, surely people who walks by this wall in the future will be VERY interested to know that I was here and I did a graffiti here"). And at least you can meet the graffiter in person someday, but this satellite is thought to be found when nobody is here to be met.

Comment Re:Lame choice of photos (Score 1) 282

no animals / pets (inter-species friendship for example)

What is that you want, the alien version of goatse?

Anyway, more seriously, the Armstrong / Aldrin photo in the moon is a good idea, but the "state of the art technology" will become obsolete and meaningless to ourselves in perhaps half a generation, that is a bad example.

Comment Re:Futility at its purest (Score 2) 282

But the utility of that contraption kicks in only after we are no more, so your argument will no longer be valid.

So I agree with the GP. Also, I find depressing that some people are counting on the extinction of mankind, and are more worried about the time after that and some hipotetical aliens (who may not even exist or come close to Sun, let alone find a piece of debris around a dead planet).

In essence, this gets to be both a silly and depressing idea. Great boooh.

Comment Re:Old news (Score 2) 218

Yes, because military leadership is demostrated in Photoshop compositions.

Do you think the photo was chosen/doctored by a navy assessor? Most likely, it is the job of some assistant who thought "Well, the thing under looks like the sea, so the big things on it must be ships. And they are grey and have guns, so they probably are from the military (they lack *so much* imagination when it comes to colour!). And since we won the Cold War, only we have ships, don't we".

If you want to worry about military leadership, a better issue would be the childlike bickering between officers of the different branches ("if you say that a Navy plane is an Air Force plane they won't hear to you, even if it is not related to the argument!")

Comment Re:Much ado about nothing (Score 3, Insightful) 145

You are confusing terms.

The GP didn't say that the government assumes the people who signed the petition is gay, he said that the government (or the minister) thinks that the people that signed the petition worrying about a gay immigrant may be interested in the rights of gay immigrants. I think this is a logic process (except for those who signed because they were relatives/friends/admirer of that particular person, and would not care for any other gay immigrant).

The logic for "anyone who promotes legalization of drugs is a drug user" is a far more twisted. It involves making assumptions (like that only "current drug users" would support such a law).

Also, the government didn't compile anything. Probably an association requested the people to sign in and it was that association who did compile the list and gave it to the government. The government just used it.

The only concern about this issue is the government used data available only to them (that is, that no other political party had access to) and public means to publicite their gestion only for electoral reasons(instead of having the government run the country and the party prepare the elections). But that seems the usual conduct everywhere, so it is less of a news.

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