About the only thing that ISN'T oss in webos is the display layer on top. And you can get X server running on the pre as well. http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/240926-x-server-pre.html So yeah it's not as FOSS as MeeGo, but it's still a HUGE win for oss and unlocked phones.

Heh, webOS can be rooted by just turning on dev mode (just type in the konami code and press the "dev mode on" toggle) And palm not only SUPPORTS homebrew they actually paid to have the lead homebrew developer flown to the dev day as a keynote speaker.

What I am hoping is that HP in an effort to BUY marketshare, puts out a $900 device for $400. They have the cash, and could make a HUGE dent.

My one wish for 2011 (early 2011) is webOS on solid and fast hardware. I believe it is the BEST mobile OS but it is REALLY in need of some hardware to support it!

Just a clarification: Catholics believe that baptism removes original sin. Many (most?) other Christian style religions believe that Baptism is a SYMBOL of Christs death and is not in any way a salvation issue but instead a way to show that a person is publicly associating with Christ and being a Christian.

I imagine that would work against "winning hearts and minds" and probably add to the "the USA hates us all, kill them."

You could get a pre which is an open linux box. Palm is actively supporting! homebrew and does not even require rooting to play with.

Az, With all the publicity it should be fairly easy for you to find someone to make original art for you (in fact, contact me if you need some help with that) and then the only thing you need to do is get a "lemmingish" name. They can not copyright game mechanics, only the art and code, and they can trademark the actual name. At that point, with original art and a non-trademarked name you are free to actually sell this game (or give it away free)

Wish i could mod you up...

@dangitman There are more than 2 patents in the link I supplied, and it is suggested that there is a portfolio of many more. Also, there is commentary on how those patents are likely to be considered infringing. The facts I offer are in the linked article (written by lawyers who know quite a bit more about the issue than I) There are links to the actual patents, which I would consider facts. Granted we all know patent disputes are very interpretive (and are not "proven" to be infringing until tested in court)

Mainly because Apple is violating tons of Palms patents and they don't want to wake that (IP) giant. http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/28/apple-vs-palm-the-in-depth-analysis/

Perhaps "layman's terms" doesn't mean what you think it means... I think anything with over 2 acronyms can no longer be considered a layman's description.