For myself, BASIC on a VIC20 and a TRS-80, then some assembly on a Commodore 64 then Apple with basic and Pascal. Not myself, but an interesting story about a guy I met many years ago was taking a programming class where the Professor said he didnt care what language they used for their projects. So, what he did was write the program in postscript so you would feed the program into the printer and get the result as print output. Kinda clever I thought.

There is a reason my kids dont have FB, Twitter, etc accounts. Until they know what and where to disclose info, not a bright idea to open the flood gates both inbound and outbound. Just sayin.

Not necessarily. A link can be saturated with a lot more 64 byte packets or a lot less 9k byte packets, but 1 Gbps is still 1 Gbps.

Ok, believe whatever you want. It makes no difference to me.

Well, you are correct, but sort of missed the point. 'News at 11' is a backhanded slap at the news outlets in general, being that they think they can create it, rather (especially in the case of Dan) report it.

Riiight. holding my breath now. News at 11. /sarcasm

She is a troll in every sense and doesn't puff, puff, pass, just puff puff puff puffs. Seriously people elect like this that just suck the intelligence out of the world?

gee, I don't know, maybe because its really hard to figure out how to open a network Share, and click on an installer for say Visio or Office, or how to shut down or how . Its being made an OS for the people who don't know and don't care about how the machine works, which is fine in that regard, BUT I don't want it, I do know and I do care.

Thanks, you put it better than I could. From jump street its hard to use, both. From a useability perspective why should I have UI that supposed to me my life easier harder to use to find simple stuff like How do I install a program like Symantic Endpoint Protection? ok I find out how and run the installer and it blows up. nope. not installed. Can't find the shutdown method either. (only took 2 minutes to find both on Google on my other machine to find which was easy to do, not a chore) No command line at all? Seriously I might be an old fogie but I started with VIC20s and then CPM and then Apple DOS then Unix of various flavors and all the Windows iterations. Starting with the beta of the original Windows then WFW, NY then the rest. Compared to ME, Windows 8 is the same train wreck and RT is the same. Yes, I have an iPad and yes I am stuck to the app store unless I JB it, however I rarely find the need to do so. There are apps, they are easy to load, they work well.vNot being an Apple fanboy but the fact is it just works. I expect a command line on my daily PC. Sometimes I need it, and find / -name 'thisfile' is really helpful or God forbid I need to use sed or awk or perl. And I can do those on my tablet, not MS doesnt want me to be able to do it on with their OSs? seriously? Its an OS for the other people who just run Word or Excel and email. Period.

You can mod me to Troll all you want, but the fact is, they still suck, both of them. Forcing someone to use either should be considered torture and therefore disallowed by the Geneva conventions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

PGP all over again. BAN it, it must be evil! How could someone expect to talk to their friends and family without being in the clear for anyone to see. The nerve.

They both suck. I loaded Win 8 in a VM yesterday and it is still the nightmare it was during the preview. Soon it will be be one icon that says "Do something (but most likely not what I want)" :)

Ditto. I believe in law enforcement, but I also believe in corruption and it is everywhere. The "Trust me I won't " phrase has gone thru the Theory stage and is now pretty much at the Law stage of BS tag lines.