that's an extremely one dimensional view, and wrong. proof is that you don't see middle class americans running around ganking rich people for their G6's. why not? the difference between the middle class and the 1%'ers is much greater than between someone living at the line of poverty than the middle class. by your logic, the middle class should waging war against the 1%'ers right?

people can be satisfied with their position in life. you are saying that the only factor is disparity. sorry, it's a little more complicated than that.

i know amongst the other reagan youths this is the ultimate insult, but it means little to the rest of us.

speak for yourself.

^^^ this hits the nail on the head.

the vast majority of violence doesn't come from simple aggression. it comes from getting in the way of someone's money-making venture. the cause is closer to apathy, or a lack of empathy than aggression.

war has, and always will be about money. it's usually couched as furthering a righteous cause, but that's just a way to for rich people to get poor people to die for them. the best way to eliminate the threat of nuclear war is to find an end to poverty. no easy task.

and we should listen to people like you? random guy on slashdot? i'll stick with proven genius, thanks.

i'm assuming there is no vulnerability. that'd be the real story. if there's a root vulnerability, you can do almost anything. you don't need to fool the user, you just sit in the background and download all of their pictures and data and scan memory for credit cards and passwords ... and so on.

source,
http://krebsonsecurity.com/201...

common sense friend. you can hack and get a million cards, or risk a going to jail as a violent offender to get one card. duh?

got anything else to say? colorful words? anything?

man, did you read your post? i didn't ask for evidence that chip cards are more secure than MSR cards. you said this,

let me restate, can you describe why you think apple pay is more secure than a chip card?

i didn't advocate anything. i said the main reason people jailbreak their phones, especially in asia, is to install software they'd otherwise need to pay for. i'm not making any judgement about piracy or jailbreaking.

are you going to tell me to fuck off now? i'll feel a little empty inside if you don't.

having a custom ROM and rooting are orthogonal. i have a Nexus 10 that's rooted but's running the stock firmware and continues to get OTA updates. that being said, you are mostly right about running a custom ROM. the result is a loss of an hour of your life and a device that's almost always less stable.

exactly. this little detail ...

the app has to have root to work. how did it get root? my guess is that it's a an app that masquerades as an app that requires root, and it fools the user into granting root privs to the app. if that's what happened, the users deserve their fate.

how did it get root? either the device was rooted and the user granted the app root privs (duh!), or they've discovered a hack to gain root on non-rooted devices. if it was the latter, we'd be hearing a lot more about it, and faking a phone shutdown is the least of our concerns.

and how did you determine that?

i guess you are talking about physically stealing a card. that's almost almost zero percent of the problem. that requires physical theft which criminals don't want to risk for the most part.

most likely chip and signature. the difference being what you'd expect ... no pins, but signature verification required. the reason being that the big three are afraid people will spend less if they are forced to remember a PIN (yes, really).

chip and signature is arguably less secure, but it does prevent credit card cloning ... you can't clone the chip.

let's not get all high and mighty about freedom and privacy. it's about installing pirated software. call a spade a spade, that's all i'm saying.