And I'd like two entire universes please.

Just because you can make a silly demand, doesn't make it anything other than that.

Rgds

Damon

Well, your sig "I am a crackpot" leads me to hope that you don't actually believe the mental contortions in that item!

Rgds

Damon

Confirmation bias is strong even when people try to avoid it, but I have once or twice even here on /. said words to the effect "thank you for that explanation I didn't have a clue" and "yes, I take your point".

It can happen, just not often, and changing an opinion is often a slow and gradual (and sometimes embarrassing) process, unlikely to be visible in the course of a single response.

Rgds

Damon

One of the reasons that I have not run my own forums, even as one of the first people with Internet connectivity in the UK for example, is the horror of dealing with that effect. I sincerely believe most people around me to be decent human beings, with some rougher edges exposed when not talking face to face.

But what is it that happens with discussion threads?

Rgds

Damon

Possibly I *could*, but as it's running on our custom hardware writing the emulation would be ... time consuming.

But being able to bootload over serial with all the compilation (etc) happening on the laptop is still a huge boon. I still have burnt in my memory the sound of the grind grind of the floppies compiling and assembling on CPM, and with my one contact with Bill Gates (by telex) because of a boneheaded misfeature in the Microsoft tools... %-P

Rgds

Damon

The key virtue, such as it is, of the do { ... } while(false), better wrapped up in a macro, is that it makes it harder to get the nesting wrong by accident, which is critical.

With goto there is no such safety net.

But I think we're agreeing furiously.

Rgds

Damon

Bingo: you win tonight's Internets...

Rgds

Damon

PS. Like all that Y2K work I wasn't doing in a bank that wasn't necessary except that it was...

Lots of 'Internet of Things' code will be written in C (with some ASM and C++) as the 'things' tend to be resource constrained. That's a big market coming up.

I'm enjoying using C again on devices with similar performance to those I was using 30 years ago (now: ATMega328P running with 1MHz CPU, ie 1 MIPS; then Z80A with 4MHz clock making for ~1MIPS) but with lots better development tools this time, and several GHz of laptop to run them on.

https://sourceforge.net/p/open...

When not writing C (and developing hardware) I knock out (parts of) huge mission-critical Java systems for banks.

Each is good: each for its niche.

Rgds

Damon

Some sort of nested do { ... } while(false); and break; would be my first suggestion.

Rgds

Damon

OK, good, I already understand that linking Apache and GPL code is a bad idea (though Apache and LGPL much less bad to completely OK depending on the details).

I thought that you were suggesting some problem between Eclipse and Apache that had completely passed me by.

(FWIW, I try to license code Apache 2 as far as possible to maximise the number of places that that code can be used.)

Rgds

Damon

Would you please expand on "The same applies to anything Apache licensed." for me?

Rgds

Damon

If you look at my code for example at random.hd.org then you'll notice that it's something that user space can do just as well. The kernel has no magic other than direct access to a few more noisy things.

Rgds

Damon

+1

The security should work independently of details of the underlying medium and without relying on its exact implementation. A byte stream (observed or not) is just that. Likewise an unreliable packet stream.

This is what we have abstraction for.

Rgds

Damon

That's at least three sorts of nonsense:

https://www.fourmilab.ch/hotbi...

https://www.random.org/

http://random.hd.org/

The OS has no magic either, or are you saying that it's random seeds all the way down?

Rgds

Damon

Oooooo, thanks for that. Damaged one of my eyes falling off a Segway (1st world geek problem or what?) and anything that helps is welcome!

Rgds

Damon