but they still don't seriously threaten our society

exactly because we have vaccines, you fucking moron

and if not enough vaccinate, the diseases find vectors to proliferate again, AND they have a chance to get lucky and develop new strains that can get around our exisitng vaccines, threatening everyone period

everyone has to get vaccinated. if not, the person is ignorant, irresponsible and dangerous to all of our health. if you don't agree with that statement, you don't know what the fuck you are talking about and/ or you are blindly selfishly irresponsible

you have no freedom to choose something that threatens other people's lives (nevermind your own)

i see it as the genius of biochemical warfare by plants

our livers have been in an evolutionary arms race with plants for hundreds of millions of years. they make a substance that kills, maims, disorients, or deters us. one up plants. our livers do their best to mop it up. one up animals. rinse repeat

perversely, we've developed a taste for some of those substances. like cayenne pepper or horseradish, as a paradoxically enjoyable taste. or heroin or cocaine, as a disorienting drug

in a way, the plant still wins when we get addicted to them, like these bees. drug use is just slow motion suicide. it might not kill us immediately, but it brings us back for more, and more and more, to finish the job

science!

you can't explain it

I thought cosmic rays trigger lightning.

so some day you will use a toolkit like qt on top of opengl, right? like tomorrow?

there's no war in pakistan... officially anyways.

so this was a police operation or police assistance operation or whatever the fuck - which made _no_ attempt to apprehend the suspects(no attempt at a trial, just a long range killing).

so yeah, he's not taking full responsibility. he knew that when he was saying it. he's not even taking war crime responsibility for it. he's not actually taking any actual responsibility for the act or ordering a hit that resulted in a dead american - or the others which have resulted in scores of dead civilians.

and quite frankly, you should already know that the drone hits are just call-a-hit's for local governments - they define who is a terrorist or not in pakistan, and those actual terrorists they don't want to whack they don't order hits on - they get to choose and USA gets the blame. yemen for example was using them for getting rid of political opposition figures(and now the whole country is a mess).

vaccines have to be mandatory as freedom has nothing to do with prideful ignorance that is a threat to safety of and well being others

get it shitbag?

wait, you're stalking my other posts? and you think heroin is like a vaccine?

of course any vaccine should be thoroughly tested before they inject it into anyone you raving moron

it's not like they are grabbing people and injecting them with experimental formulations. the science on this is well-established and there is a rigorous review process before anyone gets injected

you are a fearmongering, pridefully ignorant wackjob. you need to get and your kids your fucking vaccine and if you do not you ARE a health threat to us so we WILL save your kids and the rest of us from your dangerous ignorance, you irresponsible asshole

go live in the mountains and never have kids. if you won't do that, do what you have to do to be part of society you dumb fuck

We didn't have vaccines for most of our nations history and those diseases never posed more than a passing threat to our society.

go to an old graveyard

look at the old tombstones

look at the ages

you're a pridefully ignorant asshole and your stupidity is dangerous to the rest of us

could you cite the HPV vaccine concerns? i remember some fearmongering from the right during the last election

you need clear and present proof, not "maybe possibly could"

your concerns are empty and pointless fear about hypotheticals that don't exist. therefore they are of no value

vaccines work. we should mandate them

someday they might not work you say? someday they could be a danger you say? what does that even mean? every fucking thing we make in the world can fuck up. maybe someday the AI of self-driving cars will screw up and drive people off bridges, so we should never have self-driving cars. what? this is just unfounded fear

your position is nonsense

you have no right to shoot and kill someone unless they represent a mortal threat to you

likewise, government has no right to use force against anyone unless that person represents a clear threat to society

if you do not get vaccinated, you are a clear threat to society as a disease vector

therefore, society has the right to protect itself from your irresponsibility of exposing people to danger, by authorizing government to force you to vaccinate

it's exactly the same as protecting yourself from a home invader. you can get shot for invading a home, because you are an unknown mortal threat to the home's occupant. in the same way, if you don't vaccinate, you are a threat that society must neutralize with use of force

the words in your comment are written as if government and society are forcing you to do something against your will for no good reason

but society has a very good reason

you are a threat to us if you do not get vaccinated

there has been caller id apps on some markets(like, fetching from the phone companies directory the name) ever since shortly after 3g was rolled out.

why 3g was important for this? why not on pre-3g smartphones? on gprs+gsm network your data access got cut when you received a phone call, thus making it impossible to try to query the database just in time and keeping the entire database for a country of 5 million people on a smartphone that had a 16mbyte memcard was not feasible of course.

and you already had this with facebook for your friends who had put in their phone numbers as public too, if you synced the contacts.

of course facebook could just put anybodys phone number matching who is on facebook - but that would be quite a big of a privacy nono so I don't think they're actually doing that.

there's always going to be people with legitimate medical reasons like yourself not to get vaccinated

which is why you should be grateful for laws making vaccines mandatory: herd immunity means you and the few others unvaccinated for valid reasons are protected

where herd immunity breaks down, such as when not enough people get their vaccinations for fucking retarded reasons, you are at greater risk of getting maiming and hobbling diseases

i waded through your dreary insults then stopped reading here:

I personally see absolutely nothing cruel about warning someone against doing drugs because it will lead to a life of poverty, addiction, and early death and then making them face the consequences of their decisions when the turkey comes home to roost

no, douchebag, that is cruel

your views are invalid as your attitude is immoral

coming after all the condescension and assumed superiority, it was actually quite funny