Follow-up...

My exit is in ten miles... I'll just close my eyes for a bit... And then 200 miles later...

IKR!?

>going to new job
>see road sign "welcome to new hampshire"

I was supposed to be in Uxbridge MA.

From Rhode Island.

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How will the car know when to wake the driver up

You mean as opposed to now?

I used to fall asleep every morning on the way to work because I had two jobs and school. Without rumble strips I'd be dead.

Semi-autonomous driving would have been safer.

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The struggle now is how to keep people from destroying things. FireFox is a disaster. Gnome is useless. Seems like people take over these projects and tear them to pieces.

I don't think the Open Source community is entirely free of the Peter Principle and politics for all the talk of meritocracy and organic growth. Especially when we have companies that subvert those goals for their own agenda despite their original lofty goals at founding.

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You can't have enforcement of contracts without laws and the power of government behind them.

Remind me to never sign a contract with you.

Because seriously, you and people like you are what is wrong with libertarianism.

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Contracts are only valid when both parties negotiate on good faith and without undue pressure.

Contracts are also only valid when they're enforceable.

Without any power behind a contract (i.e., some sort of laws and force of government, e.g., regulations), contracts are nothing more than "damn pieces of paper" and your "word," whatever that is at the time.

This is where the libertarian fantasy drives off a cliff - that we can have contracts without The Man.

That only worked when your tribe was > 300 people and you could do ad-hoc "trial by combat."

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Woosh... xOra's point was, government's intervention causes harm.

And what you don't get is not whether government regulation is a bad or good thing, but what kind of effort do we put into *good* governance. You know, like what everyone else on the planet does, from countries to corporations. Ever hear about "corporate governance"? Ever think of countries as just large corporations? It's an over-simplification (by far) but I think it's the only way to illustrate the "all regulation is bad" idea as lunacy.

The way broadband is sold in this country, the legality of what ISPs do in their contracts are just shy of outright fraud.

But hey, all regulation is bad.

You people want to toss out everything and leave anarchy behind. Forget about good governance, let's just have more burning rivers, consumer fraud, and land-grabs using private armies.

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So much shilling in one post.

>uttering C++ and C# in the same sentence as if they are equivalent

Just... no.

>no need for other languages

Uh huh.

It seriously sounds like you've got only two tools in your toolbox and are looking at the guy with the loaded Gerstner box and telling him all those things are useless, which as a machinist and toolmaker, I have to say that you're delusional.

There is room in the world for C, Lisp, Go, Rust, COBOL, C#, and literal jokes like Brainfuck. Because no one language is perfect for all use cases.

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An Easter Egg, in the construction sense that you describe, would be more like the time a construction crew opened up the wall in my apartment to fix a leak in a pipe and found a lunchbox that someone left behind when the building was built in 1928 with a note inside reading "Hello."

Sometimes it's a singing frog.

Don't bother trying to put the frog on Broadway, though.

http://static.comicvine.com/up...

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That's what the Reply To: is for.

It can be different from the From: header.

Most people never check it.

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Capitalism works. Competition works.

Monopolies are bad.

For some reason there are a lot of so-called "conservatives" that think that monopolies are "good" and "natural" and think that breaking them up is somehow bad. ISPs are monopolies in many areas. There /isn't/ any competition.

Monopolies aren't capitalism. They are rent-seeking.

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There are basically two providers here in the Libertarian Paradise of Concord NH (Tea Potty Central). Comcast and the remnant of Verizon's "investment" in Internet connectivity (abandoned by VZN and saddled with VZN's debt) called Fairpoint, which is neither fair nor sharp.

Comcast is so fucking awful when it comes to customer service (my partner's daughter was seriously creeped out by one of their techs and when she turned down his advances he fucked around with her computer and basically trashed it. Comcast stonewalled settling and making it right.) that people like me will never deal with them and will prefer to go entirely with Internet service at all. Before I found out about this, I had scheduled an installation, and cancelling the installation when I did find out was not straightforward. I finally told the guy "I know what you have to do, just check off "other" and be done with it."

And this is just me. And I hear similar stories IRL.

They wonder why they have a bad rep.

I'd rather do business with the Mob on Federal Hill in RI.

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The fraudsters register "typo squatting" domains that look like the target company's domain,

Since when do you need to effin' typo-squat a domain name to send something that looks like bossman@targetcompany.com to underling_grunt@targetcompany.com?

The FROM: header can be anything. Hell, you can telnet to port 25 and type it in manually. It's been that way since forever-ago, as far as I can tell.

I mean, come on, I've personally sent mail from satan@hell.org.

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Since Snowden blew the whistle, now they're going to dig their heels in more, and continue to track everyone.

The world really does work by "toddler logic" and passive-aggressive bullshit.

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You blame the union members and the unions.

You blame them when the decision to sell shit products and ignore quality issues was an upper management problem, and remains to an upper management problem to this day.

Because if that responsibility doesn't lie with upper management, then why do they get paid fucking rockstar salaries? What do they do all day, financial masturbation?

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Wrong, wrong, wrong. It does not in any way require anyone to ignore evidence,, they can perfectly well accept the evidence as part of a more grand scheme that happens to not be scientific.

What's the evidence for YEC? Specifically which evidence is there that the "Earth is 10,000 years old"? Give one example that is not a folk tale. To believe that one must actively avoid all the media, courses, books, and basically everything in our culture that supports evolution.

And BTW, I have to note that back in Darwin's day most naturalists knew that evolution took place, but the debate was over the method by which it happens (whether Lamarck was right or not) and since then, the debate is always over smaller and more precise ways over how it works. YECs look at this debate as if it's a weakness of science and that "well, hurr, they don't actually know anything do they?" Which is an oversimplification and just plain wrong.

As i already pointed out, the evidence being part of the creation for whatever reason is how that can happen. Its no different that 2(1+1) and 2+2 both equalling 4.

Both of your math examples are observationally (in this universe) true irrespective of any folk tales. Claiming that each are equal to 4 can be tested. The claim that the Earth is 10,000 years old cannot - because for every challenge there are excuses made by those that support YEC; not any excuses that can be tested, either. There is absolutely bupkis in evidence outside of fairy tales.^1

Read this: "The Dragon In My Garage." http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LI...

Science can do nothing about that either because science cannot falsify it.

But there is a difference between unscientific claims and being anti-science, and the people who obstinately believe that YEC is true are truly anti-science. It's exhibited through their actions - that not only do they not believe that the Earth is OLD but you must also believe it's only 10,000 years old (or ~6000 years old (4004 BCE) depending on which lunatic you're talking to). This includes various arguments of the "dragon in my garage" style as exhibited above and such nonsense as the Dover PA school board idiocy. It's the active opposition that makes them anti- something and not just un- something. That's what the actual dictionary definition of "anti-" means.

Anyone trying to claim science disproves religion

  What has been done is that evidence has been presented that the Earth is older than 10,000 years notwithstanding evidence to the contrary. It's a fine distinction, but an important one. It's that scientific conclusions are always contingent on whatever evidence there is, not dogma. YECs have to show at least some evidence that the Earth is as young as they say it is for their point to have any standing. And they can't. Because they have no evidence outside of circular "logic" and outright fraud. I mean, come on, the whole Noah's Ark thing in KY and Discovery Institute BS is all about grift and fleecing the marks (the "true believers")

And what YECs really don't understand is allegory, when you get down to it.

>I'm simply wrong

No, I'm not actually. You're just a troll and IHBT. But whatever. An unused blade becomes rusty.

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Footnotes:

1. And yet every Sunday I turn on the television set, and there's a priest or a pastor reading from my book, and interpreting it, and their interpretations, I have to tell you, are usually wrong. It's not their fault, because it's not their book. You never see a rabbi on the TV interpreting the New Testament, /do you?/ If you want to truly understand the Old Testament, if there is something you don't quite get, there are /Jews who walk among you,/ and THEY - I promise you this - will take TIME out of their VERY JEWY, JEWY DAY, and interpret for you anything that you're having trouble understanding. And we will do that, if, of course, the price is right.

Was the earth created in seven days? No. For those of you who believe it was, for you Christians, let me tell you that you do not understand the Jewish people. We Jews understand that it did not take place in seven days, and that's because we know what we're good at; and what we're really good at is bullshit. This is a wonderful story that was told to the people in the desert in order to distract them from the fact that they did not have air conditioning. I would LOVE to have the FAITH to believe that it took place in seven days, but - I have /thoughts./ And that can really fuck up the faith thing. Just ask any Catholic priest.

And then, there are fossils. Whenever anybody tries to tell me that they believe it took place in seven days, I reach for a fossil and go, âoeFossil!â And if they keep talking I throw it just over their head.

There are people who believe that dinosaurs and men lived together, that they roamed the earth at the same time. There are museums that children go to in which they build dioramas to show them this. And what this is, purely and simply, is a clinical psychotic reaction. They are crazy. They are stone cold fuck nuts. I canâ(TM)t be kind about this, because these people are watching The Flintstones as if it were a documentary.

-- Lewis Black "Red White and Screwed"