Well, not exactly.
They measure it's immediate impact in a controlled environment.
Not the impact after a couple of weeks after people have had time to dtofr.

Case in point,
The youtube video linking to the petition finishes with several links to high quality videos explaining why prices are rising (falling supplies of fossil fuels) and why alternative energy sources are essential to protect our way of life.

The funny thing is, when there's a "complaint ad" like this, most people (even yo super dumb Americans) tend to either be ambivalent or investigate and decide or themselves.

So such advertisements seem more likely to encourage solar power than discourage it.

But you gotta admit, the ideal outcome is the court deciding they undercharged, slapping the government with another $21mill for Sprint plus legal expenses.

Which is quite possible when the government branch that brought the action finds just how many wiretaps they were actually doing (all of it's 54+ million customers)

I do hope you own a prius.

What it does is explain why the surface temperature is so hot.
regularily compressed gas to very high pressures passing over lava.

Not a thing to do with the optical properties of co2 or the sun.

Exactly.
But on venus the atmospheric gad is so dense it does reach those temperatures.

Thanks for proving my point.

Temperature = Constant * Pressure

so as the pressure increases so does the temperature.

It's really not that hard, but hey, I'm willing to listen to these calculations, do show, I've never seen.

Basic physics,
http://littleshop.physics.colo...

the pressure is important because it enables the Co2 to reach those temperatures.

If it was a lower pressure the hot gases would not be able to hold the same amount of energy.

lovin the reasoned argument backed up by facts.

I actually wavered for a minute thinking maybe I was wrong.

But after finally establishing a certain crowd think convection and conduction are part of the greenhouse effect I'm at least now more comfortable that I'm less wrong than them.

no, it's because the heat from the massive number of lava flows conducts and convects through the dense gas.

Absolutely nothing todo with the amount of sunlight absorbed or reemitted (the greenhouse effect)

Nope.
That's not "greenhouse effect".

Do you understand that and why thicker glass in your garden greenhouse would make the greenhouse colder. (repeatable experiment - actual science).

Do you have even the slightest idea about thermodynamics at all? or are you really just repeating the drivel you read on the internet and MSM.

Yes, same thing.
The atmosphere is incredibly dense and as such conducts and retains the heat fairly efficiency from those lava flows throughout the lower atmosphere.

That's nothing todo with the optical properties of CO2 and everything to do with the thermal conductivity properties of high pressure CO2 gas.

"Venus CO2 runaway" was some western political bullshit taught to kids in the 70s and 80s during the various oil strife and has no basis in real science.

I understand the greenhouse effect just fine,

But the temperature at the surface of venus has nothing todo with the optical properties of CO2, and everything todo with the lava flows that cover the planet.

Unless you are saying Volcanoes are caused by the greenhouse effect you are competely wrong.

You really think the temperature of venus is from the greenhouse effect?

That's funny.