You say that as if some in power don't see that ideologically as a feature, rather than a bug. Many in positions of power/wealth have set themselves up so that they would benefit hugely in various ways such as politically/ideologically and financially from such a disaster, and in fact use it as a catapult into total authoritarian takeover.

George Soros, as one example, has made a pastime of profiting, and many say working to cause, national currencies and economies to collapse. There are many others who would stand to benefit enormously in various ways both inside and outside the US from it's economic/political collapse.

Bottom up, top down, inside-out.

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How dare you bring logic and facts into this political/ideological low-info Donnybrook!

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An unexpected and unwanted text message from a wireless company prematurely exploded a would-be suicide bomberâ(TM)s vest bomb in Russia New Yearâ(TM)s Eve, inadvertently thwarting a planned attack on revelers in Moscow, according to The Daily Telegraph.

Explains why more terrorists don't use Verizon.

Achmed the Dead Terrorist agrees! (But at least he took that Verizon bastard with him!)

(At 8:08) https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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Just create two other "car companies" that sell re-branded Tesla cars and have the three of them open up a permanent auto trade show in which they would be allowed to sell directly.

Why bother creating other companies? Just create a trade show for electric-only cars. If Nissan and Fiat (is there anyone else selling 100% electric cars?) don't show up, it's still a trade show. Tesla doesn't compete with the Nissan or Fiat electric cars, yet.

Think outside the box!

Why not use the IRFA that's been so much in the news lately?

Being able to legally purchase any product directly from the maker if said maker is willing and offers to sell is part of your religious beliefs and practices as a member of the Teslaticular Church of Gedouddamahface.

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Gah! o.0

How 1980's!

There is only one branch of government, the Executive, then there are the minor agencies and departments like the Congressional Dept. and Legislative agency, all closely overseen by the Executive branches' all-seeing intelligence and monitoring apparatus.

Any who buck the status quo are destroyed.

But hey, there's rumored to be a new Marvel Comic-based movie in the works!

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If I were Tesla Motors (owned it, whatever) I'd park a new Tesla across the street from every new car dealership with large signs saying things like "This Is The Car $DEALERBRAND Doesn't Want You To See Or Drive!".

I'd take a page out of the Saul Alinsky playbook and bus-in protesters to march in front of every dealership every day, plus full-page ads in every paper..

Use a buggy-whip as a symbol for the car makers/dealers to frame them as outmoded and obsolete in the public's eye.

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Short of a Judge's orders in a particular ongoing investigation and/or court case, there is no obligation on the part of citizens to create/store/retrieve their papers/data and effects so as to make a search easier. Or even possible.

If I and someone else creates a language only we understand and converse over the telephone, we are not obligated to teach any TLAs/LEAs that are recording/monitoring how to understand our new language.

Any such requirement would likely fail court challenges due to it's prior-restraint nature.

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The license plate is registered to you, right?

Mount the plate with quick-release bolts. When you park somewhere take it with you, or store it inside the vehicle.

Or, you could find the motor pool where they park the plate-reader parking enforcement vehicles and set them all on fire.

Or, you could find the politicians/bureaucrats responsible and set them on fire.

Depends on your style, I suppose.

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You'll also find that there are many tasks which are far more difficult to accomplish without one.

Such as? This is a serious question. I'm trying to think of anything that is more difficult to accomplish without social media, and I'm coming up blank.

Although results are admittedly mixed and vary widely depending on the ability/savvy of those running/maintaining it, having a performing/touring/recording band FB page....or not...can make a difference these days.

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So then you're in favor of skinheads and Westboro Baptist-style nutjobs forcing LGBT and ethnic owned bakeries to provide cakes with Nazi/KKK/skinhead themed cakes.

Be very careful what you wish for. A law forcing people to participate in, enable, and/or advocate for things they are fundamentally opposed to have historically demonstrated a nasty habit of being turned around and used against the very people who thought they were a great idea.

You're a special kind of stupid. The kind that enables tyranny.

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"Hate speech" is a completely arbitrary, subjective, politically-driven, and constantly-changing standard, meaning it is no standard at all.

As I said above, bake them a cake, sure. But, to *force* a person under threat of deadly force to include symbols/symbolism, slogans, etc which convey support for or against any religious, ideological, political, or ethical subject/topic/party/etc to which they are fundamentally opposed is WRONG.

No matter the motive, it is wrong.

The next time there's some Bill or Proposition seeking to restrict rights of a protected class like LGBTs before a legislative body over which there is much contention, would it be OK for some anti-LGBT group to force an LGBT baker to provide them a cake with the graphic symbol being used to self-identify by that group? Like a swastika, maybe?

Sorry, you cannot force free people to participate in and/or advocate for things they fundamentally oppose. That's one of the reasons people came to colonize America, to escape exactly such tyranny by the churches and the monarchies of the Old World.

Only an ideological Luddite would want to turn history back and destroy basic pillars of individual liberty and freedom that so many have died for.

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So, you're in favor of the Westboro Baptists forcing LGBT-owned bakeries to bake cakes with "God Hates Gays" and other equally disgusting slogans? You'd like to see black-owned bakeries forced to bake cakes with "Niggers Are Monkeys" for the KKK?

That is what you're advocating for.

Of course to realize this you would have to have spent some time actually "thinking" about the subject rather than simply "emote" your way through logical problems.

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Just, wow. This is not about some vast right-wing religious conspiracy or hatred for some group or groups.

This is about not being forced to advocate for a religious/ideological/political belief/position to which one is fundamentally opposed.

From my post here: http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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