That's what you get when you elect a man with three Muslim names. His middle name is the best, though: "Hussein". I love saying that! "Hussein". It drives the lefties into a rage!

yeah, if there's one thing 'lefties' hate it's muslims. and sorry, but only his middle name is muslim. i know, i know, when it comes to those goofy africans and their silly names it can be hard to tell the difference but for real and everything!

lol yeah, that obama and his millions of executive orders.

I happen to think that 135 years is ridiculous when we're talking about geological time frames.

the only one talking about geological time frames is you. the rest of us understand that 135 years is more than enough to determine a trend in a climate signal.

55 million years ago the earth was a different place, with a different continental layout (hence no glaciation of the antarctic and greenland). the natural cycle worked completely differently. it's meaningless to bring that up to try to compare to the current epoch.

likewise, it's meaningless as to determining the cause of current warming. the greenhouse effect is basic science. we can measure the stuff we're dumping into the atmosphere. we can determine how much of it is us. we can calculate the effect.

we can use the PETM as a proxy as to how the earth and the biosphere will react to sharply rising CO2 levels but it doesn't inform us much at all about what is causing current warming unless you happen to find similar phenomena to back then. which we haven't found and you cannot present.

as i've mentioned elsewhere in this thread, 55 million years ago the earth was balls hotter. i don't mean 'crank up the AC summer's a few degrees hotter'. i mean a shit-ton hotter.

Well there was an incredible variety of life 55 million years ago

life which was completely different from people and adapted for a much, much hotter earth.

remember that human beings start to die from heatstroke when the wet-bulb temperature hits about 95F. now remember that 55 million years ago the earth's mean temperature was about 30F higher than it is today.

i would think that if another star decided to get close enough to perturb the oort cloud, we may have other issues to deal with.

55 million years ago the global mean temperature was roughly 30C. that's compared to 14C today.

I hate to break it to you but if mammals could thrive at the temperatures and C02 levels of 55 million years ago then we can as well.

the argument that humans would be just fine if the earth's average temperature went up 30 degrees F because some long-extinct mammal did well in that environment is too stupid to even consider. you're being a complete buffoon.

Mammals were flourishing 55 million years ago. So the temperature and CO2 levels would be just fine for people.

i hate to break this to you, but the mammals that thrived 55 million years ago were not the same as the mammals of today, much less people.

just because some long-extinct animals made it fine back then doesn't mean that people would.

i can't believe i even have to explain this to people.

hey, billions of years ago the earth was a ball of molten rock. so we're gonna be fine!

lol. seriously, if you're trying to equate NK and the US in terms of truth-telling you're a buffoon. unless you actually believe any of the crazy-ass shit that comes out of NK. at least the US is willing to admit that our leader sucks at golf and bowling.

for one kidnapped aid worker

and a jailed spy. 3 for 2 aint too bad.

we'll come up with something after we waterboard Santa.

you can't definitively link any particular roids-era barry bonds home run to the drugs. people know this. people also know that that doesn't mean that the roids didn't have a huge effect on his numbers.

On 30 August 2012, Hollywood star Clint Eastwood took the stage to lambast President Obama. What ensued was an odd, 11-minute monologue where Eastwood conversed with an empty chair upon which an imaginary Barack Obama sat.

it wasn't odd. it was the perfect distilled essence of the conservative movement - an elderly white guy yelling at his own imagined version of a black person.