Depends on the presenter, really. It's hard to tell exactly what was being represented by some of the graphics/images without knowing what the presenter was saying.

They have to go underground because you fuckers freak out any time something with a camera and database is mentioned. As if anyone gives a fuck where you drive.

Instead of evaluating any usefulness this may provide and imposing a transparent solution, it's beat into the ground at the first mention.

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Why are you still here? You know what's more annoying than beta? The kid that has to come around every day to tell you that he's leaving. This time for good. I mean it. I really do. I'm being serious here, guys. I'm out. I'm leaving.

It's included in a question, as an example.

Likely your corporate system is doing SSL proxy, too. I know ours is. Proxy acts as a man-in-the-middle and you get a generated cert from the proxy, not Slashdot.

That's not how budgets work.

European cars all show fuel economy in liters/100km. I don't know why. Seemed odd to me at first, too.

Since everything does it that way, it's an easy lower-is-better comparison.

I'd be curious if anyone knows why it caught on to measure it that way. Maybe it's easier at the pump? If I put in 5L, then I can go 100km... ?

Sadly, this is the first thing I thought, too. I hope that it is working again, though.

I bank with ING in Belgium and that's exactly how they do it. Here's your card. Here's your token. Logging into and authorizing transactions on the bank site use a challenge/response system. When I bought time with my cell phone carrier, it used a challenge response system. That's the only thing I've bought online with this card, so I don't know if that's how it works all the time, though.

Actually, USAA has told me that the PIN can not be changed for the chip & PIN card they'll issue to me. I don't know why that is, though. Maybe because they don't have their own ATMs & branches across the country (plus, I'm outside the US).

For the one thing I've bought online with my european card, the website had a challenge/response setup. So no, you don't give up your PIN, just a response code. You need the card, the PIN and the challenge specific to the transaction in order to generate the response.

Same way I log into my banking site and authorize transactions there.

No, its a standalone device you put the card into. Enter PIN, website gives you challenge you enter into device, then it spits out a response. Very simple device. It runs off a watch battery for 2+ years.

Every POS will need a card reader designed for chip & PIN, plus the back end. That's where the cost is at, not the home device.

There are wireless POS devices, too. One benefit of this system is that you never have to hand the card over to the retailer, so it never leaves your sight.

Cheaper to pay for the fraud than the switch. I would guess that has changed, now.

And what good does this do you when you buy online?

If it has the same challenge/response system, then you have to generate a code with your card & reader in order to buy something. Something you have & something you know...

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