You can draw something very close to the second and still claim the defense. It was after all a common symbol in Scandinavia. Carlsberg, the Danish beer company, used it as their logo until the symbol became too tied with thoughts of a rather aggressive southern neighbour. The Finnish air force had it as their symbol, and recently, at their anniversary, you could buy swastika rings. A Swedish noble family has it as their coat of arms. Incidentally that is where the nazis got their inspiration.
The fact is that banning the use of swastikas is ignorant, prejudiced and hypocrisy. Isn't the COD series originally based on WW2, with the possibility of people impersonating nazis for their gaming enjoyment? So you can play nazis for fun, but you cannot use a 4000+ year old symbol because the nazis also used it?
But then what happens when the black hole evaporates through hawking radiation and the event horizon disappears?
That will only happen after the black hole has fully formed and matter has stopped falling into it.
What does that even mean? There is no such thing as a fully formed black hole. The evaporation can happen while matter is still falling into the black hole. The net evaporation just have to be more than zero.
Which, in our reference frame, is never. It only ever evaporates in local time.
Of course it will disappear in our frame of reference. Otherwise the black hole would violate all the conservation laws and the laws of thermodynamics, because we would see the evaporation products, and also still see the black hole. This cannot be allowed or else the basis for Einsteins theory of relativity is wrong(the basis is that the laws of physics are the same in all frames of reference) and the very basis for believing in black holes would be gone.
Exactly. It is, and forever will be, something that's about to become a black hole. Unless you happen to fall into it. In that case, as your watch joins the local reference frame, the black hole will actually form (from your point of view) and suck you in. Outsiders will just see you approaching the thing-that's-almost-a-black-hole, and your watch slowing to an imperceptible crawl, freezing you in time.
But then what happens when the black hole evaporates through hawking radiation and the event horizon disappears?
Seriously, someone tell this guy you're allowed to use more than one character to represent a concept or action, and that these groups of characters represent things rather well.
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It's super that ASCII was made specifically for English and the number of letters therefore appears to be the ideal choice, exactly because you use it to express English. That is not the case for all languages, where the the limitation in letters seems rather artificial.
"Yes significantly. Scholars believe the real numbers may be up to 2-3 times as high."
No. NKVD was meticulous in its handling of records.
How can you know? In the one period that has been independently verified the NKVD only reported 4461 killings, but th independent sources have verified more than 20'000.
"But it was the result, and must therefore be counted. Almost half of all the people relocated died from disease, hunger and fatigue."
No, in general death toll for relocations was not very large. Certain groups were very hard hit, but a not very significant part.
Just the official Soviet numbers for 1930 mentions 1.8 million forcibly relocated of which 0.5 million died before arriving.
BTW, one branch of my family was relocated (to Siberia) and later migrated to Udmurt republic.
And my family had a couple of years free room and board courtesy of the German state in a concentration camp, for aiding Jews.
"Some researchers put Stalins death toll to almost 50 million. While the more conservative estimates are 20 million."
As one crazy-ex-USSR dissident put it: "Stalin killed people in billions".
Which is relevant how?
"Well if we are playing that game it was actually the fault of France and Britain for putting Germany in a untenable position in the Versailles treaty. But the responsibility for the civilian deaths caused by the scorched earth policy instated by Stalin, must lie squarely at his feet."
Or maybe the fault is in Munich Accords (which is quite fittingly called 'Munich Conspiracy' in Russian)?
That's very unlikely. At that point the Nazis were already firmly in power. A much more likely culprit for the successes of nazi germany at that time was the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
"Am I correct in assuming that you are not arguing against the premise that it depends on your point of view? The Finnish for example were helped by Hitler to fight back a Soviet occupation."
I'm arguing that Stalin was worse than Hitler.
Good, we are agreed then that Stalin was worse, for a lot of people.
"So we agree that your main contention was the body count?"
Not only that.
Then what?
"The 700000 dead during the purges is the lower limit, the actual number is probably far larger."
Not significantly.
Yes significantly. Scholars believe the real numbers may be up to 2-3 times as high.
"Mass relocations are responsible for a death toll in the millions as well as the almost total annihilation of several cultures."
Bullshit. Relocations were harsh but the were not in general designed to kill people.
But it was the result, and must therefore be counted. Almost half of all the people relocated died from disease, hunger and fatigue. Some researchers put Stalins death toll to almost 50 million. While the more conservative estimates are 20 million.
"The civilian death toll on the eastern front was as much the fault of Stalin as Hitler. It was caused by the bad logistics and the utilization of scorched earth tactics."
No, that's the fault of the USA. Really, USA has not stopped Hitler in 1939 so Stalin had to act the way he did. So it's all US fault.
Well if we are playing that game it was actually the fault of France and Britain for putting Germany in a untenable position in the Versailles treaty. But the responsibility for the civilian deaths caused by the scorched earth policy instated by Stalin, must lie squarely at his feet.
"Well worst is a matter of perspective. For a European or a Jew Hitler was the worst. But, for a host of others Stalin was much worse. The number of people killed in the purges, the gulags, and the deportation of entire nations to Siberia killed many more than Hitler ever managed"
Bullshit! Complete and utter bullshit.
Am I correct in assuming that you are not arguing against the premise that it depends on your point of view? The Finnish for example were helped by Hitler to fight back a Soviet occupation.
Russia alone lost more than 20 _millions_ people to Hitler's invasion.
On the other hand, the upper limit of Stalin's bodycount is about 700 thousands during the Great Purge. Mass relocations are responsible for another 20 thousands.
So we agree that your main contention was the body count?
The 700000 dead during the purges is the lower limit, the actual number is probably far larger.
Mass relocations are responsible for a death toll in the millions as well as the almost total annihilation of several cultures.
The civilian death toll on the eastern front was as much the fault of Stalin as Hitler. It was caused by the bad logistics and the utilization of scorched earth tactics.
And, you have completely ignored cases like the Ukrainian genocide.
Wasn't actually Stalin the one who beat the shit out of Hitler??
Not really, it was the inherent logistics problem of invading Russia. The same that beat the shit out of Napoleon.
I mean, the guy (Stalin) was a completely communist nutjob... but at least he helped stopping the worst.
Well worst is a matter of perspective. For a European or a Jew Hitler was the worst. But, for a host of others Stalin was much worse. The number of people killed in the purges, the gulags, and the deportation of entire nations to Siberia killed many more than Hitler ever managed, and if you then take Lysenkoism and its results into account the number of people harvested by Stalin's regime makes Hitler pale in comparison.
Think about what would happen if you were transported back in time to the 1600's. What could you really do with all the knowledge you have about today?
I could get burned at the stake.
I've a reasonable fraction of my life along the northwestern coast of Denmark, which has some very tricky beaches. The most dangerous places can be those without waves, especially if it's windy. An area with no waves in strong winds is a sign of very strong undertows. The locals learn to read the waves, but tourist think "what a lovely calm piece of water, I'll swim there". They then get dragged out to sea, and even the strongest swimmers can't fight the currents. Many drown not from being overwhelmed by waves but from exhaustion fighting the currents. A flotation device would be perfect in those cases. They'll be able to keep themselves afloat and much easier to spot and retrieve by boat or helicopter, because there is no way anyone sane would be swimming out after them.
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For such an ancient nation, you sure are a prick.
Let me clear up a common misconception. I might be overweight but I'm not an entire nation.
You've got to admit that there is something odd about the nation that went to the moon finds going to the gym a mile away without a car an insurmountable obstacle.
It snows some places you know.
That would matter exactly why? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mXOqv38euQ For such a "can do" nation, you do seem rather lazy.
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