"Authorities are still trying to determine the suspects' motives, U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson said Monday."

But the political ends *is* the installment of fairnesses. (There's no morally higher pursuit.) And we're gonna hafta disagree on being able to equalize everything in life as sounding plausible.

Thank you for explaining that; I'd missed that nuance to it.

Maybe this points to one of the inherent problematicnesses [new word there] of regulating business. That is, how does one decide (and who does the deciding) at what point is charging more for a costlier service being done for anti-competitive reasons?

Well, it's not the space cadets in academia who sit around and ponder how everything is relative that I'm worried about. It's the more pragmatic Lefties who have delusions that everything in society can be equalized (given the application of sufficient coercive power).

And yes, it's about all those things, to amass enough political power to install Progressively greater levels of "fairness"*. But it's not about burning the culture just to have an orgy or something. It's because our culture was based on a totally different values system.

*AKA economic and social justice.

But being in support of common carrier laws, that apply to the whole country, would not be even Left-leaning libertarian. It would have to be collectivism, that was completely voluntary. I'm pretty sure that's not what pro Net Neutrality folk were about.

Well summed-up. The only nuance that might be missing is what they have in common (besides being a waste of time, that is). And that is, whether or not fusta is an equal opportunity troller (across the political spectrum) or only targets Conservatives like DR.

I may post a JE some time soon about modern sleazy web programming tactics I'm noticing, such as on that site.

Only when it comes to God's morality. For example, downplaying the truth that it's much better for children to be raised in a two-parent household of both sexes. But when it comes to their man-made morality, there is no unwavering in for example their belief that it's a truism that more "fairness" = more betterness, ad infinitum.

"As late as last year, I remember Net Neutrality being a libertarian free market concept"

All I've ever seen about it is Left-wingers saying we must have it. I've gathered that it's about getting government to interfere with the free market, by telling carriers that they can't charge more for premium levels of service.

BTW, from just seeing your side of the conversation I'd have to guess that you were talking with fustawhatever. Because while DR tries to confound and confuse Conservatives by saying everything that's up is down and vice-versa, fusta's trademarked tactic against Righties as I recall is to pelt with accusations (none of which s/he can hold up, of course). I guess the idea is to take you off your game and from thinking clearly about the issues to thinking about how on earth someone could accuse you of such things and how you can explain that they're not true. (Hey, I never said it wasn't a brilliant tactic!)

"that thing which to the Left is like sunlight to a vampire: the truth."

What Conservatives hate the most in political discussion is when the other side lies about them. What Leftists hate the most is when the other side tells the truth about them.

(And it's not inherently this way, as the Left *could* try with honest persuasion to compete in the arena of ideas. And therefore someone telling the truth about them wouldn't be a liability.)

(Wow, I'm way behind on what's been going on here.)

From one of those FA's:
“I used to support the police, to believe they were here to protect us."

Yo tambien. Now I see them as any other government employee.

Which reminds me, I need to unaffiliate from the GOP in my California voter registration.

p.s. nationalreview.com can suck a fat one; I'm never visting that site again.

Google: The IE 6 of Internet search.

Maybe Mozilla could make a search engine and re-light the competition fire and user focus in this space. (Bing just seems to be a clone of the stagnating leader.)

It shouldn't be about what you want, or what you think you want, but what you need. I want (need?) a search engine that will give me that.