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Submission + - How the Internet Is Taking Away America's Religion (technologyreview.com)

pitchpipe writes:

Using the Internet can destroy your faith. That’s the conclusion of a study showing that the dramatic drop in religious affiliation in the U.S. since 1990 is closely mirrored by the increase in Internet use.

I attribute my becoming an atheist to the internet, so what the study is saying supports my anecdote. If I hadn't been exposed to all of the different arguments about religion, etc., via the internet I would probably just be another person who identifies as religious but doesn't attend services. What does Slashdot think? Have you become more religious, less religious, or about the same since being on the internet? What if you've always had it?

Comment Re:Lawmakers need to do the right thing (Score 4, Insightful) 120

When drugs are gone, you still have the kidnappings and the corruption.

I really doubt that you would have it on the same level as we have it today, but I don't think that is the reason to legalize drugs.

We should legalize drugs because it is the right thing to do. The drug laws are a relic of the past when people thought that it was okay to legislate their brand of morality. We now know that drug prohibition causes much more harm than good, and so that makes it dangerous and wrong to continue down the prohibition path. The war on drugs is a failure, and to keep pushing for these laws either means that you're insane, or you want to manipulate the public or are being manipulated.

I do think that as a side benefit of legalization we will see less violence and criminal activity by the cartels, less money to corrupt politicians, less money to buy arms, less money to pay muscle, etc. etc, but of course we won't see these benefits if we don't even try.

Comment Re:Um no (Score 0, Flamebait) 224

We can't even get people to agree on daylight savings time.

DST is an anachronism. Only old people (esp. those in congress) oppose getting rid of it. I suspect that when they die off we'll be able to relegate it to the dust bin of history.

Reminds me of an old joke: if the opposite of pro is con, the opposite of progress is ...

Comment Re:Surely you jest ... (Score 1) 870

at some point we're going to end up with a civilization like in Star Trek TNG

First --- I wish, that would be an incredible and ideal future.

But society is based on power and control, both in government and private industry.

Well, they did go through the Bell Riots first.

I'm thinking that we're going to have to go through something similar, but with the current thinking among conservatives, it's going to be a lot worse. The Fuck-You-I-Got-Mine Capitalism is going to come to a bloody end.

Comment Re:Whatabout we demand equal time of our views ins (Score 5, Informative) 667

In the bible slavery, polygamy, genocide are all fine.

I get that you might have some difficulty accepting that its not to be taken literally, its a common disorder among techies, we have a difficult time accepting that not everything means exactly what it says sometimes since we tend to work in technical absolutes as much as possible ... but if you are so utterly stupid that you think it 'approves' of those things then I realize I'm wrong, you're not that stupid, you're that ignorant.

Let's just take a look at mass murder. I'm sure you remember the story about the walls of Jericho, right?

Then the Lord said to Joshua, "See, I have delivered Jericho into your hands, along with its king and its fighting men.["] ... Joshua commanded the army, "Shout! For the Lord has given you the city! The city and all that is in it are to be devoted* to the Lord ... so everyone charged straight in, and they took the city. They devoted the city to the Lord and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it - men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys... Then they burned the whole city and everything in it, but they put the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron into the treasury of the Lord's house... So the Lord was with Joshua, and his fame spread throughout the land.

Maybe that doesn't fit the exact description of genocide, but it is GOD commanding mass murder.

This is my favorite sentence from that chapter:

All the silver and gold and the articles of bronze and iron are sacred to the Lord and must go into his treasury.

See, the Creator of the Universe needs some cold hard cash, similar to today. You'd think he'd be even better than the fed at printing money being the all powerful ruler of everything, but alas, no.

Regarding the actual definition of genocide, this is him saying to commit genocide:

For the day has come to destroy all the Philistines and to remove all survivors who could help Tyre and Sidon.

Show me where, in anything that I just posted, that it says not to take it literally, because it looks literal to me. Or do you mean that your pastor told you not to take it literally?

The bible as a work of literature has its exemplary moments, and I would encourage everyone to read it, from start to finish. But as a book on morality it is severely lacking in that you can never tell what to take literally, and what to not take literally. I guess use your own judgement? Well, you don't need the bible to do that.

*The Hebrew term refers to the irrevocable giving over of things or persons to the Lord, often by totally destroying them

Comment Re:Possible (Score 1) 227

While it's seems convenient and sketchy to magically find money after it was stolen, is it possible that MtGox is just that incompetent?

Funny story: I remember going online once, only to randomly end up in some sort of exchange. It was magic. There were spontaneous gatherings of bitcoins popping into and out of existence. A person called 'MagicTux' kept telling me over and over that the future was now.

Comment Re:Go after em Nate (Score 5, Interesting) 335

I cannot ever recall a group of scientists like these folks be so opposed and go to the lengths they do to squelch any and all dissenting views.

I cannot ever recall groups of people who are not experts in a field so fervently trying to discredit the experts in that field, and to disprove the science in that field, all while using anything but the generally accepted methods of that field.

I don't see wildlife biologists using historical populations of wolves to try to disprove Einstein's theory of relativity. I don't see archaeologists using ancient mummy wrapping techniques to try to disprove the theory of solar spot formation. But here we have a political scientist using statistics from economic data to try to discredit the theory that more energy in a weather system will cause more energetic events. It's getting to be so ridiculous that I bet in the near future we *will* see a wildlife biologist using historical wolf populations to disprove that the globe is heating up, or that it is but man is not the cause, or that man is the cause but you can't do anything about it anyway, or that you could, but it's actually better for everybody so don't do anything, or please, just anything but not to burn less oil.

You guys that deny climate change is happening (or whatever your flavor of denialism is taking on these days), do you ever wonder if by buying into what these guys are saying that you're just playing the stooge?

Comment Re:Not even close to the worst. (Score 1) 290

No, this statement was provocative hyperbole that equates controlled use of energy resources to industrial accidents. It's like calling every infamous head of state "Hitler" ...

...so what would we call Hitler, then?

A convenient way to dismiss someone's argument with which you disagree, but really have no basis for your disagreement.

Comment Re:So the question is, is this true? (Score 5, Insightful) 96

Fuck you.

Our worst fears about what the NSA was/is doing to privacy and our constitution have been realized and you are trying to trivialize it. Just because you're tired of hearing about it and want to move on to the next thing doesn't mean the rest of us don't feel that this is one of the most important things that has happened in our government during our lives. We need to focus on this shit like crazed lunatics if we are going to clean it up.

So again, fuck you.

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