You're muddling the story. After the Crimea takeover (which I don't support, btw) people in the East started capturing local administrative building. This tactic had been successful with the Maidan protesters, they captured most of the Western administrations (torturing and beating at least one governor) before the fall of Yanukovich.

Just as a note, I think that Yanukovich should be hanged on the same tree branch with Poroshenko, Yatsenuk and Turchinov.

Oh, really? Here's a photo for you: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media... ( http://www.bbc.com/news/world-... ). The very first proposed law of the post-Maidan parliament was a repeal of law forbidding the denial of nazi crimes. Then the law removing the special status of the Russian language.

Sorry, but while Maidan was not a classic neo-nazi, by the end it was definitely nationalistic and anti-Russian. I had been there at the very start (and I donated more than $5k to help protesters) but had to leave for two months. When I returned, everything was different.

Dude, do you know that inciting ethnic or racial strife is a _felony_ in Russia? Punishable by up to 8 years in prison, at that. There are also 25 official state languages and something like 200 different ethnicities. Russia is nowhere close to a fascist state.

It IS an authoritarian state with a de-fact dictator and dysfunctional court system. And also with an energe-export economy which is leading to nowhere (you can guess that I don't like Putin). But that's beside the point right now.

Also a thought, the new Ukrainian slogan: "Hail to Ukraine! Hail to Heroes!" is taken DIRECTLY from the WWII. From the nazi-allied Ukrainian forces that had committed multiple war crimes against Poles and had zero effect on the regular USSR army. Kinda fits the situation today.

I'm curious, how can you comment these kinds of videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... - the Ukrainian soldiers say that local citizens in the 'liberated' areas call them 'fascists' or 'ukrops'. They are sincerely baffled that they are not, in fact, greeted as heroes by the people in the East.

The maps show important several divergences, like separated Lugansk and Donetsk (in reality they never were). Or the lack of clashes away from the rebel-controlled area.

If the BBC maps are copied from the official military intelligence then it's no wonder that rebels don't have trouble encircling Ukrainian military.

Oh, who cares. We have a number, after all. It's so obviously true! It's as true as CNN polls!

So basically, it's called Wikireality. Nice. Do you understand that you've just channeled our dear beloved mister Goebbels? "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself".

Yeah, and diplomatic help of the West also helped. Do you remember the shitstorm that the Western countries started when Yanukovich passed the laws banning weapons from demonstrations?

I don't watch RT or any other TV channel. I quite purposefully read only blogs - from both sides. And only one side is sane right now, guess which one. Mind you, these roles were completely reversed in the first months of the Maidan revolution.

About the invasion: "It's quite hard to prove the Russian involvement" - words of OSCE monitor about the "Russian invasion". But don't take my words, look it up: http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/r...

Let me translate your comment: "LALALALA Russia is bad LALALALA". So if other countries openly celebrate SS members as heroes then it's OK, but Russia pointing that out is fascism?

Does that help? My pro-rebels posts are getting downvoted all the time. Since it's against the groupthink here. Often simply the ones that provide the data for other points of view. So why bother logging in?

Actually, 'vatnik' is originally what the 'exalted' Western parts of Ukraine liked to call the 'unwashed' Eastern citizens. After all, they spend all the time in those ugly vatniks instead of nice designer clothes.

Oh, and they also scream: "Hang Russians on tree branches" (at 0:25). Just to show how Ukraine develops deep mutual appreciation and tolerance in a multi-cultural society from the very young age.

It's so fucking hilarious... One side in this conflict _literally_ has a party with self-confessed anti-Semite, who is supported by people with official "Ukraine for Ukrainians" ideology and the other party is basically a run-of-the-mill rebels simply wishing to live separately. And the latter party are fascists.

What can I say, nice brainwashing job, Western media. Congrats.

Yes. Really. Otherwise you won't get even a part of the context.

Do you know how deep the rift between the West and East of the Ukraine is? Just watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... - school children in the West of Ukraine are chanting "Kill [ethnic slur for Russians] with knives" and "The ones not jumping are [ethnic slur for Russians]'.

Have you heard about anything like this in the Western media? I bet not. Have you heard about the war crimes of Ukrainian army (a proud tradition, starting from the WWII)? Ditto. Have you heard the "joke" about the "time and inspiration"?

Check. The official ideology is "Ukraine for Ukrainians".

Check. The whole Western Ukrainian narrative is filled with it.

Check. Ukraine now censors TV and Internet to prevent non-state-controlled news. Mass gatherings are forbidden - if the current laws were in force in January then Yanukovich could have jailed all of the Maidan protesters. Or simply shot them (just last week a new law had been enacted that allows police and army to shoot suspected rebels without warning shots).

So yes, Ukraine is becoming fascist.

Techies who speak English can read news outside of Ukraine or work around the filters. Most people can't. Besides, Internet is not a very popular news source in Ukraine. It even trails the newspapers.