Catch 21.

Off the selves... Nice

I'm talking about what the final version will be like. Come on, try not to be so literal.

I agree with this. If they get rid of a real start menu, I'll make the unwanted switch to Apple if I need another proprietary system.

How much does it send back to Microsoft? I have heard it is much more onerous in this regard than previous OS versions. Can anyone shed some light on the truth of that?

And that was an example of a company being punished. They lost a LOT of money in terms of lost potential at least. And is likely why they are at least making an attempt to listen to their customers this time around (or the appearance thereof anyway). If they hadn't lost market share, they wouldn't have changed their behaviour.

My mistake was to post that at night just before the Russians were waking up. They don't like to hear the truth about their dictator.

You lose your users. So what? Does it cost you?

I use a Kubuntu laptop. That said, what we see here is the downside to open source. There is no real penalty for not listening to users and just doing what you want. If you are doing it for free why would you care what others think, as long as you think you're right. Same deal if you have somehow gained a funding source that also doesn't care. BTW, Maybe Google liked Mozilla fucking up Firefox since that would push people to Chrome (yes I know they have a deal with Yahoo now, but most of the stupid shite was done when they got their money from Google). Gnome was a case of this combined with a crew that got too big for their britches. Design have always been uber-gnu and did things as they saw and see fit, and don't have to answer to anyone but themselves and if you don't like it, use Redhat. So there (sticks tongue out). There are a lot of projects that do care. But I think k hubris is easier with open source when you are less likely to lose a paycheque.

Do you mean build 'Windows 7'? I agree.

Due to the sanctions and drop in the price of oil, the Russians couldn't afford to pay for both Putin's chest waxing and the saddle for him to ride shirtless on the exterior of the rocket to the space station. So they just scrapped the whole thing because they were afraid to look bad when people realized he wasn't on it at the first launch.

And Godwin says you are wrong. If it is appropriate to make the comparison, then it is appropriate. He does not believe that a comparison should never be made. Neither do I and never have. Your position is horribly dogmatic and is akin to people who believe goto statements in programming should never be used no matter what. This is in fact complete bunk.

Execution is not a deterrent because they take place behind walls and virtually no one sees them. Out of sight, out of mind. If they are going to execute people, then do it in the public square in a way that shocks people (hanging, guillotine, etc). Couple that with executing prosecutors and cops who through malice or complete incompetence cause an innocent person to be executed. Like as not, the latter will reduce to an absolute minimum the former. And when an execution does happen, people will be shown the consequences if they murder in no uncertain terms.

If you don't do it in public, then don't execute people. Without being a real deterrent it serves no purpose and is more merciful than keeping them in a cage (but for fuck's sake, stop giving them TVs and other shit that makes the time go fast).

So is your argument why homosexuals are still thrown in jail for being homosexuals in Europe and North America?