> They are already practical from a use standpoint, now it's just cost. My commute is only 10 miles and my wife's is only 5, so we'll be prime candidates.

You might want to consider something like a Nissan Leaf. I drove one as a rental for a month when someone rear-ended my Prius. Really nice. Plugged it in whenever I arrived home. No other concerns.

> I'm saying that your usage of the quick-charge stations is completely dependent on their survival.

Well this is just silly. Most places don't have them, and they are only of value for long day trips, yet Tesla hasn't had any difficulty selling their cars... I don't need to be the 100th person to note here that most people rarely need to drive over 250 miles a day, and that there are simple solutions when such people do need them. I estimate that of my family's two vehicles, one of them (30k odometer) has never been more than 100 miles from home and the other has only about 2-3% of its miles in this scenario...

Why is there some assumption that an EV must outperform gas cars in every single use case?

Nor electrical outlets.

You shouldn't be surprised at being labeled a "troll" when you talk about Tesla's demise as a fait accompli...

Think Sweden. Plenty of trees. Swedes like it when people think of their country as high tech, but mining and forestry are still much bigger industries there...

I'm sorry you're Canadian! ;)

Of course now you could gather up all your loonies and toonies and head south and buy your bicycle for even less, given the current exchange rate...

> Outside of super-caps or battery swapping, you can't charge the car with electricity faster than you can pour in a liquid hydrocarbon.

The more batteries you have the faster you can charge real miles, and this scales infinitely, assuming you can obtain electricity as the necessary rate (think charging stations at electrical substations).

> Last I've read, those "subsidies" are normal tax breaks that any business can claim for long term capital investment.

Nope, the oil industry gets special tax breaks despite record $billions in profits. Obama campaigned about this.

> Tangentially - what hybrid, what was the savings rate and the cost to break even?

Toyota Highlander vs. Hybrid model. Assuming my driving mix, and $3 per gallon gasoline (never dipped below that since I bought the vehicle).

Well sort of. The big problem is that there is no iterative compiler for TeX. AucTeX can give you some syntax checking, but far from complete. The preview feature for snippets of code "works", but you lose the document as a whole. I want to be able to press a key in Emacs in the middle of some 100 page document and immediately see the effect *on the whole document* in a parallel window...

Well being that you only need to travel from now to.... now, I'll sell you a time machine for $100.

Target and Walmart sell adult bicycles for under $100. Bus passes vary by location, but many are $30 or less. Walking has always been free, but who knows what it might cost when you use your time machine to go to some dystopian future?

Where will you fill up your gas burner when those stations are gone?

Been done--in Europe, during WWII, many cars were converted to use producer gas derived from wood...

So you must be really pissed about the oil industry's subsidies...

Sure, but it's not the same thing. You could also buy a bicycle for $100, or a bus pass for $30, or walk for free...

That's about the same price as a BMW 5 series--both are luxury cars, except that the Tesla is faster, more powerful, larger, and cheaper to run.

The price isn't absurd, comparably. This is a luxury sedan comparable to BMW, Mercedes Benz, etc. Same price range, but the Tesla is more powerful...

Indeed. When I first started using LaTeX (1992), it reminded me when I first started using computers (1979). Writing (card punching) some code, sending it off to be compiled, then running another time to get the output. Compilers used to be all-or-nothing, start each time from scratch. Find an error, attempt to fix it, and start over again. Now if I use modern IDE, even Eclipse, I see much of this process with each keystroke. The compiler is different now--able to make incremental changes on the fly. AFAIK this is not the case for TeX. I'd love to type LaTeX code in Eclipse, and have syntax/reference error highlighting, etc. And also have xdvi (or whatever) open on the side, showing each incremental change as I type...