Comment Re:2 wrongs... (Score 1) 628
Animals are an inherently inefficient means of getting energy into the human body. Eating meat is also much more prone to health problems, obesity being the most pressing.
Animals are an inherently inefficient means of getting energy into the human body. Eating meat is also much more prone to health problems, obesity being the most pressing.
While the liberals tend to live in a fantasy world where nature is paradise and every animal yearns to live free.
Is it okay to eat your straw man?
Why is it that some people seem to care more about the death of 200 dolphins than the death of 200,000 Syrians?
Why is it that some people care more about the death of 200,000 Syrians than the death of over a million jews during WWII?
See? I can find a bigger problem too.
At the base level, our brains see nothing wrong with killing these animals for food.
Speak for yourself.
the discussion of the morality of eating animals is a slippery slope to veganism.
In other words, veganism is the only logical outcome of a discussion about the morality of eating animals.
Black slaves weren't bred for food, and weren't slaughtered on industrial production lines.
Slavery was an institution that many people thought was sacrosanct and was so entwined into all aspects of society that it was unthinkable that it would ever be abolished. But a more evolved sense of morality prevailed. My comparison is entirely valid.
Nice try, AC, but as you know China is still going through their own industrial revolution. We got the working conditions thing sorted out in the west a long time ago, and we're not going back to Dickensian working conditions despite the best efforts of some people.
In one hundred years we'll look back at the practice of eating meat with the same horror that we look upon slavery now.
In one hundred years, we'll look back at the practice of eating natural meat with horror. Would you have a problem with lab-grown meat?
I would have no problem with lab grown meat as long as it's safe and healthy. As long as a living animal didn't have to suffer and die, that's fine by me.
In one hundred years we'll look back at the practice of eating meat with the same horror that we look upon slavery now.
Spoken like someone who doesn't know the taste of a truly nice piece of meat.
I became vegetarian two years ago. I'm 38. Chances are I've eaten more meat in my lifetime than you have.
1 - It's not just about dolphins. It's about human treatment of dolphins.
2 - That's your prerogative. Personally if I lived in the revolutionary war period I'd prefer it if my legacy was on the abolitionist side.
3 - The question of "morality" in other life forms is irrelevant. Morality is a human trait.
Cows and especially pigs are highly intelligent animals. And they are totally delicious. Let's change our minds about those before we beat up the Japanese too badly, shall we?
Pigs are definitely highly intelligent. As clean, smart, and affectionate as dogs, by all accounts.
Wild animals in the food chain don't have much of a choice as to how they survive. Humans, on the other hand, do. We have reached a point where we no longer need to eat meat, plus it has a ton of other disadvantages (inefficient and expensive use of energy, it's better to get it direct from the plant, hygiene and safety issues, etc.). If we have the option of getting by without having to torture and murder animals, we should take that option if we want to be considered civilized.
Japanese defend the practice as a local custom — and say it is no different to the slaughter of other animals for meat.
Spoken as if it's okay to kill those animals too.
It wasn't so long ago that we cleaned chimneys by sending little boys to climb up and clean them from the inside. It wasn't so long ago that the poor were warehoused in workhouses in horrific conditions. It wasn't so long ago that slavery was widespread and legal in America. We don't do these things anymore because we tend towards building a better society. Our morals evolve.
In one hundred years we'll look back at the practice of eating meat with the same horror that we look upon slavery now.
You are one sick, twisted, psychopathic motherfucker.
If the climate scientists have a model that accurately predicted the past 16 years then we can talk about the future.
Until then the predictions of gloom and doom are about as believable as the heavens-gate cult.
For fuck's sake.
Single-use zoning ordinances were a major cause of sprawl. Let's partition everything up into nice neat little parcels that look great on a map. Let's ban the corner store. Let's put all the houses in this zone, all the shops in this zone, all the offices in this zone, and all the industry in this zone. Lo-and-behold, suddenly all of your daily needs are out of walking distance. Suddenly everyone is forced to drive cars just to get through the day. And then they wonder why American cities built in the post-war period have so much traffic.
If you think the system is working, ask someone who's waiting for a prompt.