Comment Re:There is no "shortfall". (Score 1) 381
viola = raped, the word you are thinking about is voila.
I knew there was a good reason that I prefer cellos over violas for some reason.
viola = raped, the word you are thinking about is voila.
I knew there was a good reason that I prefer cellos over violas for some reason.
Were these black boys left loose once they claimed a "stand your ground" defense? No? Thought so.
You do know that "stand your ground" wasn't applied on the Zimmerman case, right?
Industry has been pouring billions into research. How is $120 million over five years going to do anything?
Anyone who invents a technology ( and production process to keep it cheap ) to get a 5x improvement will be a billionaire over night. If you are going to do this, do it right and spend some real money. How about 250 million a year over 5 years? btw. The if the US government pays for it, the US government should patent everything and get a 5x return for the taxpayers.
The consumer/taxpayer gets money taken out of their paycheck for federal income taxes for R&D. The government would spend the money on research and development. Once developed and patented, the government would collect royalties on the patent from the corporations who would pass the cost on to the consumer in the cost of products and services.
Once again, the consumer takes it in the rear. I say let industry continue to pour money into research and leave out the government middle-man.
What about deprivation of rights under color of law? They've already confirmed that 4th amendment protected rights were violated. Now, we're just talking about how to hold those responsible accountable for their actions.
18 USC 242 - Deprivation of rights under color of law:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242
That's asinine. Gasoline has beneficial uses while guns are a "tool" with a single purpose: killing. The only useful purpose for a gun is sustenance hunting, and even that is completely unnecessary in our society.
I shoot 3-gun competitions. I've yet to see anything get killed at one. Actually, any unsafe behavior will get you DQ'd and kicked out. It's a very fun and social sport. It improves hand-eye coordination, memory and awareness.
I also help farmers with pest control. Since January, we've eliminated over 150 of this invasive, non-native species. We use semi-auto AR-15s. Sometimes, we take the meat, but the main purpose is to protect the farmland to keep food costs as low as possible.
I also carry concealed. I've had friends who have been raped and mugged with no ability to defend themselves. I carry a pistol to protect my life and my family. The purpose is protection, not killing. Killing may be a side-effect, but the choice is not mine at that point, it's the choice of the aggressor that's willing to put me into a position where I feel that my family's life is in danger.
I shoot long range precision rifle. It's a great competitive challenge in many ways. From loading the ammo, to adjusting to environmental conditions and researching to reduce the variables, it's a very rewarding hobby that improves focus, math and concentration skills.
Guns can kill. They can be both a tool of first aggression and a tool of defense. That's the nature of a tool. If you ban one because of its potential uses, then you may as well bad the 3D printer because of its potential uses. Banning something because of what someone considers its "primary" uses is just as asinine. A criminal bent on killing 100s of people isn't going to stop his plans to burn down a library with molotov cocktails just because gasoline's main purpose isn't destruction.
I don't expect you to admit it here AC. But you need to do some research. Go look at the other uses of guns instead of regurgitating an argument posited by someone else who doesn't know any better. The point about gasoline is that there are many other items that can cause death and destruction.
The gun store owners informed the ATF that these large purchases seemed suspicious. The ATF told them to complete the sale.
Question: While it is not uncommon in law enforcement to let the item "walk" usually, there's a mechanism in place in advance to track the item. What was the mechanism that the ATF operation was going to use? I've not heard anyone state how they were going to track these weapons (no transmitters, they stopped agents from following them). How was it ever supposed to work?
Step 1: Push gun dealers to complete sales to suspicious individuals
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Intercept and arrest the big shots
My position that libertarians are laughable to claim the title 'reason' exclusively for themselves?
I make no claim to the title 'reason' and I'm a libertarian. Maybe you're using inductive reasoning. Perhaps, just the libertarians that you know are unreasonable, emotion-driven and all of the other negatives that your stereotype describes.
Its as based as much on data as it possible could be, seeing as its my opinion. Again, your cargo-cult imitation of rationality does not impress.
As for that crap you posted. Murder rates in the US a Soviet conspiracy? Please, that is conspiracy nut bullshit.
I don't know of any conspiracy nuts at Harvard, but it's possible that they could be there and publishing papers. The paper doesn't claim that the Soviets skewed murder rates in the US. Read it closer. It's very reasonable to think that the Soviet Union did suppress homicide data without it being conspiracy nut bullshit.
That is odd, considering Libertarians are some of the most emotionally-driven, unreasonable people around
Can you site a study, published report or otherwise verifiable data to support your claim?
Implicitly, by asking for proof.
You guys are like a cargo-cult. Libertarians know what science and reason sound like, and try to emulate it so people will think their whacko beliefs are somehow supported by science.
Claiming the title 'reason' for your ideological rantings demonstrates you are unwilling to debate. You've made your mind up, convinced yourselves (in this case, that contrary to all the evidence, mass gun ownership is great) and then declared everyone who dares point out the gaping flaws in your argument as irrational.
You could teach Bell & Howell a thing or two about projection.
I just have a curious mind. I'd honestly like to know if your basing your position on empirical data, if it's just a stereotype that you've created, or if there are some other underpinnings. Though at this point, I think that I have my answer.
Here's a review that may interest you. May the cargo dropping gods bless you with their bounty:
Would banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide
A review of International and Some Domestic Evidence
Don B. Kates and Gary Mauser
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
It's quite a surprise.
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