Yup. Better get to sucking Jeb's dick soon, maybe he won't shove it down your throat too hard if you get started early.

About your bullshit that democrat politicians are 'better' than republican ones!

Citation, please.

you put them on a damn pedestal

No, it's just that you and your "everybody's the same, hur durr" mentality is so fucking myopic, I'm put int he reasonable position of defending a president, an administration, a party and a country I don't even like all that much. THAT'S how retarded you are.

I mean, you can hate politicians all you want, but treating them as several thousand undifferentiated clones is fucking inhuman.

Slashdot, where even the liberals are technocrats.

How dare you slander the capitalist utopia that guarantees your freedom to work ANY crappy job you want.

Well then I can clue you in on something. Whatever you're watching/reading spews the same crap about democrats and republicans as the TV.

Which includes you, I presume?

but your speculations are also nothing more than speculation

What speculations? You really suck at specifics.

The party created a monster, they chop one leg off, now they're a hero?

What the fuck are you talking about?

There's your first mistake, watching the TV in the first place.

Second one being that you think I do...

*in which, if you are talking about the voters, then we are in agreement, but the politicians on both sides are only going over their spreadsheets and leave all the masturbatory philosophizing for you all to fight over.

Sadly, real world events do not conform to that sentence.

philosophizing

No wonder you're clueless if that's what you think is going on.

Well, one of the nice things about being the opposition party is you have to pretend to give a shit about things like unemployment and immigration. Maybe they did it long enough that some of it sunk in.

And how can I argue a point that is based on faith?

You're joking, right? That's pretty much all you've been doing.

I'm not in the religious conversion business.

You will prattle on, though. If it walks like a duck...

Cry me a river when you can actually argue a point, not ignore others' and waffle on vaguely about the same shit for years.

Politics, especially the kind with any real influence is one big gray mass of corruption.

Once again, repeating a thing doesn't make it true.

It takes a specific kind of person to make any headway in the business.

Gasp! Politics attracts a certain kind of personality!

The 'honest' ones sit on the bench or get the bums rush.

That...doesn't sound as dire as you think it sounds.

nuance

Oh lord, he links to one article detailing a few limp wristed Democrats so my argument is bullshit! Christ, you can do better than that son. (Hint: Try Walter Karp, not Salon if you're going to be making this argument with any kind of fucking rigour.)

That is the objective, not to win, not to lose, just stay in the game.

Yeah, everybody gets into politics because the money is so good. Everybody.

I just find it funny/sad when people standing on the beach tell me there's no water, and then give me shit every time I point out they're soaking in it.

Your view of the world is so Manichean it's a wonder you're not a Republican voter.

Well hell, If you are going to insist that daytime soaps are for real and never back away to see that it's a studio set

Citation needed that:

a) I've made any claims that's my mindset, and

b) That's actually what's going on

You know, all those people win votes, and have lots of real money backing them up.

Gasp! There's money in politics?

Maybe you should take a peek at the support structure you seem to deny that exists.

Citation needed. (In fact, I take these "support structures" more seriously than you do, since you're the one lumping them together into some grey mass).

You leave the impression that you're just another team player.

Perhaps you should look at my comment history, cuz you're definitely getting the wrong impression there.

Sorry if I expected better.

That's hilarious, because your MO is exactly the opposite.

This just isn't my game I guess

Now, you're getting it. Hope for you yet.

but unfortunately I'm stuck in it until the end.

Which would make one think a better appreciation for nuance would be required, lest you spend the next few decades bummed out for the wrong reasons.

Hey, if you have the goods on time travel, please share.

With all you guys preaching this 'lesser evil' crap

Lol preaching. Just asking for some evidence of your claims, of which you have none.

it very relevant to point out that the people you advocate are the same as the ones you hate.

Which is great, but repetition won't make it true.

The republicans are no worse than the democrats

Sure. Unless you're a woman. Or a Mexican. Or an atheist. Or a homosexual. Go on, show me where the Dems are busting their asses trying to shut down access to birth control. I'll wait.

and they are no more in opposition than you are with your wife.

Of course they are. You think gaining control of congressional committees is meaningless? What fucking world do you live in?

Yes, Romney's GA would act identical to Holder under the same circumstance.

You have zero fucking evidence for this assertion. Furthermore, looking at former GOP party platforms and administrations, I see fuck all inclination to curb this practice. Please show me the factual basis that underpins this childish assumption.

This is business

Look, he gets something right! Shame you know as little of business as you do politics.

Put aside the bullshit.

I wish you would.

ITT: You can't vote on facts! Climate change is totes a hoax, btw.

Guess those basements are climate-controlled....