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Comment Re:Spot on (Score 2) 156

In your scenario your going to hate it when you need warranty work and the dealers tell you that you need to take it to an authorized warranty repair center for directly purchased cars. BTW that service center is three states over.

Why? Tesla has repair/maintenance centers located even in areas where it can't legally sell it's cars due to the stealership laws.

Second would be to simply authorize independent repair shops to do warranty work, who the manufacturer would pay standard rates to in order to do it.

Comment Re:Short answer - No. (Score 4, Insightful) 156

Citation coming up.

Of course, the AC is wrong in most respects.
1. They're not selling 'carbon credits', they're selling ZEV credits(Zero Emissions Vehicle).
2. The price isn't $30k per car, the penalty itself is only $5k per missed ZEV, so logically Tesla has to sell them for less. Maybe $4k each.

It's not small change, but it's only about 5% of the vehicle.

Comment Re:Still pretty affordable (Score 1) 393

How are you powering the timer/microcontroller?

I'm not disputing that it'd be easy to do - as a matter of fact I believe that most chargers/cars already have more complex logic installed to control charging in order to save money via drawing when electricity is at it's lowest rates.

Of course, if 'everybody' starts getting EVs said lowest rates might go away, but it'd still be cheaper than gasoline.

Comment Re:Still pretty affordable (Score 1) 393

being a home improvement, he'll get that back in house value, so i wouldnt chalk that up against fuel cost equivalence.

Only if he can find a buyer specifically interested in the charging capability. That's getting easier and easier, but if we lose too many rebates and incentives it could bottom out, at least before Musk gets the gigafactory up and an 'affordable' model out.

Same deal really with my interest in having a vault in my house. Nice for most people to have some secure storage, but they generally don't value it at what it cost to put it in.

Comment Re:Still pretty affordable (Score 1) 393

As he mentioned, it was an electrical upgrade he was looking to do anyways due to his house not meeting his standards for electrical work. I'd have done more of the work myself, but I'm lucky that way.

As for 'saving money after 4 years', it'd actually be a bit longer - $4.5k costs like $225-450 a year in opportunity costs alone. Then I was figuring that there was at least some extra expense with the vehicle. With the revelation that his electrical wasn't to code(or even all that safe) otherwise and that he was deliberately building in room for expansion it all became a lot more reasonable.

Comment Re:Actually against Islam (Score 1) 981

I know you are probably referring to the paradox of teaching Chemistry without using Math being a bit difficult.

Exactly what I was referring to.

However the cynic in me thinks that the morons at least understand that basic chemistry is required in the manufacture of things like bombs and bullets.

My cynicism is that they'd have their bomb & bullet makers run an apprenticeship where they teach the stuff to 'properly vetted', IE fanatic enough to their cause/group, individuals.

Comment Re:Natural immunity (Score 1) 122

I kinda already did?

As for the 'Ted Talks' I kind of ignored them for a number of reasons:
1. No reason to believe that they're peer reviewed.
2. Audio would be incredibly rude where I was at the time.
3. I'm a visual learner - listening to youtube lectures is painful for me.
4. My conclusion from the earlier 3 was that the latter 3 would be more the same. On reaching home, I confirmed this.

Anyways, some more articles on antibiotic growth promotion:
It improves growth, but not enough to justify the cost in chickens grown in clean & sanitary environments
The Mode of Growth Promotion by Antibiotics
The European ban on growth-promoting antibiotics and emerging consequences for human and animal health. link
Alternatives to Antibiotic Use for Growth Promotion in Animal Husbandry link
Effect of Abolishment of the Use of Antimicrobial Agents for Growth Promotion on Occurrence of Antimicrobial Resistance in Fecal Enterococci from Food Animals in Denmark link
Antibiotic Usage in Animals link

Conclusion: The cattle industry isn't feeding billions of dollars of antibiotics to their animals for fun.

Comment Check with the power company... (Score 1) 393

How easy is it to get a separate time-of-day rate meter in California?

I'd rate it as 'very easy' - there are companies that will do the install and I found an article on Los Angeles EV rebates. It pays you $250 for a separate meter, which they say will cover 'months' of charging. From what I remember electric meters are cheaper than water meters.

The Tesla can indeed be configured to charge only during a preset time, or hooked up to a system that allows the power company to turn it off when needed for even more discounts.

Comment Re: Still pretty affordable (Score 3, Insightful) 393

According to the official figures, the US gov't spends more money per capita on health insurance than countries that provide universal coverage. It is a sickening example of cronyism and thinly veiled bribery.

According to the official figures I've seen, the Federal government alone pays enough to not quite as much per person as the cheaper European states spend to cover 100% of their population. Add in the individual State funding and you could pay median European* healthcare costs on an individual basis without a single private dime.

As a (moderate) libertarian, I actually find this a good argument for national single-payer if it's implemented somewhat correctly. Because if done right it would actually REDUCE government spending, meaning by my 'yardstick' we actually have less government while people are better off. I, of course, have to point out that I think there are better options, but it's more a measure of just how big a cluster of screw-ups our healthcare system is.

*not to mention Australia, Canada, Japan, South Korea, etc...

Comment BMW expense (Score 1) 393

$500 lease payment + $150 in gasoline (15k miles, 30mpg, $4/gallon gasoline, rounded down). You might want to round up to account

Once you factor that in, you're looking at $350/month cars, which are still nice ones if not BMW 3 series.

My Tacoma was $300/month while the payments lasted, and it's not exactly long on features, and bought in '08.

Comment Re:Maybe 40k (Score 1) 393

For the cost of Telsa's batteries to drop, Tesla's battery factory needs to run at full capacity.

Not entirely true. It's my understanding that the initial facility will be 'mostly' empty, giving it plenty of room to expand to both increase production and implement new technology. There are size limits when you get into truly massive automated production where you end up switching to parallel production lines. At that point there are sweet spots where every production line is maxed out, but the net effect is that each fully maxed out production line helps cover the 1 non-maxed, so the overall difference is minimized as the number of lines increase.

Another point would be to ask whether the projection for 2020 covers a ~$35k EV with 200 miles range. It could cause demand to explode.

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