But it's like you gotta make it worthwhile to go to a nearby star, and the reason you'd go is to find matter in orbit, like lots of planets and asteroids, matter that you can make babies out of. No point going to a brown dwarf if it has nothing orbiting around it, might as well just stay in empty space and be limited by the total matter you already hoarded up and whatever star-light energy you're getting. Unless the brown dwarf emits usable amounts of energy, or you can even land on it and mine it for stuff like carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, to make more babies out of. (Or cats, farm animals like Elephants, or plants like trees.) Or nuclear fuel to make artificial heat and lighting out of.

Well, it's like this. Mars is too small to hold a decent atmospher, but it's got a whole lot more rock than our Moon does, and we can rip that bitch to pieces and make comfy rotating space stations out of it and make it disappear, while we don't want to have our Moon disappear, because a lot of natural things are tied to it, like tides, or women pmsing go based on lunar cycles, and it's got to be controlled by whatever minor gravitational or light effect the moon has, at least in its origin, even if there might be a biological clock inside that does the actual counting. So you can take some material from the Moon - such as dig to the cold lava free nonmolten core and hope to find some gold, nickel and platinum you could dump to earth, or just use rocks from the surface to build a megagiga flippable solar panel shade system against global warming near the Earth-Sun Lagrange point, controllable via a remote down here, so that we can dump all the carbon back into the atmosphere from underground where it went during the carboniferous, jurassic and palezoic and the like, and give it back to lifeforms to use, via an increase of CO2 from 0.03% to say 0.1% in the air, which is like a limiting nutrient to all green plants growing, that filter their own carbon content - carbohydrate, fat and protein - directly from the 0.03% in the atmosphere and it takes a long time to filter huge volumes of air for a little bit of carbon, so global warming this global warming that we should dump all fossil fuels into the atmosphere as long as we can guarantee a shading over say the sahara or diffuse over some less reflective than sahara Ocean regions - and this means they'd have to flip open and close on the clock - so if we can drop temperatures back, you might even get things like the Levant becoming fertile grounds like it was 2000 years ago and it's pretty much desert these days, but of course the climate behavior of the Earth is complicated and all that, so it would be nice to have shades up there, as solar panels, as long as you can guarantee that if things go haywire and it naturally falls away from lack of yearly fuel delivery that keeps it up there, because some apocalypse took over down here, or the retards took over and they can't make a delivery, so you have to consider the ramifications of putting the carbon back into the atmosphere, so even before then the prime concern is self sufficient sustainable rotating cylinder space stations via full recycling from Moon materials, and a whole lot of people living in space sustainably, such as China is running out of room, but there is a lot of room in space, and they make great astronauts because of smaller body size and they are not heavy to lift up, so you can put a lot of people up there first, before you install shades, and you can do it from lunar materials - but you should keep most of the Moon intact and instead go for Mars (which is faaaaaaaaaar, but not too far), and you are welcome to rip Mars to pieces to make homes and space stations out of it and almost everyone could live down here on Earth if they get to keep the Moon intact, yet have not 7 billion, but 100 trillion humans living happily in outer space on space stations made from Mars, and 5 billion kept down here as a museum and natural reservation, while Venus is getting terraformed by a shade system, or by banging comets into it on their trip back from the Sun, over millions of years, to lift Venus higher into orbit away from the Sun, to make it naturally colder in case the shade system fails, but hopefully not interfering much gravitationally with the orbit of Earth by coming too close. If anything the shade system, which is required to be superhuge for Venus compared to modifying merely 1% or so of Earth's total solar dose, with Venus you're probably talking covering 30-50% or even more of the total surface area with shades before the sulfuric falls onto the ground as a big ocean, and Venus starts filtering and gabbing oxygen at 32, and oxygen reacted hydrogen as water at 18 on its surface, ultimately the sulfates ending up in rock as drywall, and water oceans covering Venus surface. It would take tiiiiime. But you'd get a 2nd livable planet as Venus with oceans on the surface that can house whales, something that may not be worthwhile on space stations, lest they be huge to give enough roaming room for whales to long distance communicate across half an ocean via low frequency sounds. Venus has good potential, moreover a thick atmosphere too that makes it uneconomical to lift objects from it into orbit compared to Mars with an atmosphere at a 0.6 to 1.1% of Earth's pressure, where wind resistance might be so little that you could shoot a fast enough cannon ball towards outer space, and it would actually go all the way into outer space orbit, because the atmosphere does not burn it up at its fairly low escape velocity, because Mars is so small. If you could hoard a lot of mini-debris and make it bigger, then it could be terraformed and contain an iceage planet, and hold water, but Earth's average temperature is already close to water's freezing point, so to both hold water gravitaionally and have it liquid too at the same time it would have to be close to Earth in both size and temperature, which means a huge Fresnel lens capturing and focusing extra sunlight unto its surface, and if you can come up with all that debris - such as stealing Jupiter's moons from its orbit, and stealing Saturn's ring (which has a lot of easy to get to debris) if you add all that up, go fish for Pluto and send that down plummeting into Mars too, combine a lot of rocks from the asteroid belt, then you could terraform Mars possibly easier than waiting for Venus to capture water and make the sulfuric disappear. Btw Venus sulfuric might disappear into rocks instantly, within a year or two if covered with a huge shade, and the planet have a rocky surface like Mars with good gravity, and a very low pressure of say 0.5 atmosphere of pure oxygen from on the ground electrolyzers in no time, or pure oxygen/CO2 mix, which is not breathable, but its better than nothing while you wait for the nitrogen and water to gather, so Venus might be easier to terraform than Mars, if all you want is a barren rocky planet to walk on, and even if you built up Mars to proper size that Venus already has, Mars would have to wait longer to gather all the nitrogen from the solar wind, because it's less dense that far away (any kind of flux from a sphere drops as 1/r-squared, magnetic, electric, gravitational, energy, or mass flow, because of conservation laws). But even on Mars you could have a temporary O2/CO2 atmosphere while people on it carry helium packs made from nuclear physics reaction helium, and recycled. You cannot have an O2/He atmosphere, it can only be O2/N2 to be breathable, because if helium is held by gravity/low temperature, at 4, that's too close to H2 hydrogen at 2, and you can only end up with an ever increasing in size gas giant like Jupiter, Uranus, Saturn and Neptune, and unlivable, even if you start with a seed the size of Earth or a bit bigger at a distance of Mars' orbit. So you will always have to provide a gravity/temperature that holds H2O at 18, N2 at 28 and O2 at 32 while at the same time boiling off H2 at 2 and He at 4, to keep it livable. Presently Mars' atmosphere is almost all CO2 at 44, with a bit of N2 at 28, meaning it's reducing, just like Earth was at the beginning before the appearance of photosynthetic lifeforms, and it probably has a lot of carbon and sulfur and metals like meteoritic iron (or even nickel) unoxidized that hog any oxygen that appears in its atmosphere. Conversely Venus is mostly H2SO4 at 96, with some CO2, but it's really really hot, boiling off even O2 and N2, even if its surface clouds have a lot of solar reflectivity. Venus needs a humongous shade system, probably put up by robots and very thin black shades, or silicon solar panel shades, and it's better to fuck with it first before you fuck with Earth, because even if you fuck up the shading of Venus, the planet itself is presently fucked and it cannot be fucked up any worse, so it's like you're not fucking up anything. But as I said, Venus would need a huuuuge area covered, counting that it's almost the same size as Earth at a much shorter distance, and say, it's half the distance to the Sun as Earth then it receives 2 squared equals 4 times the amount of solar energy per area, and to make it 1 again, 3 out of the 4 would have to be covered up, or 75% of total area shaded, or more like 75% of the solar input would have to be diffusely reflected or filtered away by silicon panels at red in orbit at its Lagrange point. Maybe heat engines that work between say 2000C focused solar concentrators in orbit and 600C red heat heat emitters (emitting away from Venus via a mirror block) into outer space cooling would be better than silicon solar panels as shade, that close to the Sun. Aluminum mirrors, aluminum being abundant, might work, except that aluminum melts at 660C or so, and even then it's not a good heat radiator because it's not black, and if molten it would want to coalesce into spherical droplets of molten aluminum floating at Venus' Lagrange point, so silicon with a much higher melting point and a darker color and high abundance in the Universe may be after all the best shade material, even if not very useful to make electric at that high temperature over there, while still being a shade. Near Earth the solar dose per surface are is much smaller, and the top temperature attained by solar panels must not be too hot else they would not be used on satellites. I should look up how much closer to the Sun Venus is than Earth and revise this post, but ehh, it's going under -1 karma so I'll be lazy won't bother. Yeah. Stuff like that. And while we're at it, fuck Obamacare (not Obama, just Obamacare, or more like just the penalty part of that whole bullshit, the rest, like helping people pay if they apply is fine), fuck Monsanto, etc, which will guarantee it stays at -1. :)

Dude, all I got to say is finafuckingly!
Now if they just put up some shades at the Lagrange point that'd be groovy, cuz down here I really don't like getting stuck with another stupid government mandated carbon tax bill, I'm fed up enough with the Obamacare tax penalty bullshit. As in how is this fella in the white house helpin me out? I could have bought insurance previously if I wanted to, what's this tax penalty crap? Ahh, he wants me to go on welfare so he can control my spending habits, he sends his King Kong into my budget to take over control of my budget. Bullshit! Like Timothy McVeigh Invictus, I'm the captain of my soul, not the fucking government. I'm giving the muthafucka the finger over it. All I know I will do whatever it takes including dying not to step foot inside a hospital as long as they got this stupid law on the books, and then I can claim that if I refuse service, you can't charge me, motherfucker. Bitch.

I think they are confusing wind erosion with water erosion. Moisture gets absorbed in rocks even in vacuum - probably the Moon might have some crystal water in some silicates too - , but Mars probably never had a temperature/gravity pressure to sustain liquid water on the surface, unless solar output was much different. The atmosphere is extremely thin, but because of low gravity, 1/3 of Earth's dust flies up easier too. Otherwise the temperature/pressure is probably at the solid/gas transition. Here, the pressure ranges from 0.0044 psi(0.003 atm) on Olympus Mons's peak to over 0.1675 psi (0.011 atm) in the depths of Hellas Planitia, so it's between 0.3% and 1.1% of the atmospheric pressure we have on Earth. The triple point of water is 0 degrees C (more like 0.01) and 0.006 atm, or 0.6% of that on Earth. So in theory, there might have been liquid water extremely close to the triple point, but the temperature would have to be above 0 (which is probably rare) and under 20C or so (under room temperature.) Just cuz you could have a puddle of liquid water physically existing in the open atmosphere of Mars, it does not mean that it would not evaporate away super fast, as even iced over frozen clothes hung out to dry in the winter eventually dry even under the freezing point in the sun (and you have to be careful not to break your jeans or underwear when frozen and brittle, they are very fragile), so a puddle of liquid water would evaporate very fast unless the atmosphere is at 100% humidity or close to it, under such pressure, and then once in the atmosphere, the gravity of Mars is so weak that it would easily reach terminal velocity and escape. And you can tell that it would, from the atmospheric composition of Mars which is 96% CO2 at molecular weight 44, 1.9% Argon, 1.9% Nitrogen, and traces of oxygen, carbon monoxide, methane, water, etc. Molecular weight of water is 18, and much lighter than 28 for nitrogen and 32 for oxygen or 44 for CO2. Planets with cold enough surface and high enough gravity capture hydrogen too from the solar wind, including all the gas giants like Jupiter, Neptune, Saturn and Uranus, with a molecular weight of 2, but Mars is too weak gravitationally to go as low as 18, and Venus is too hot to go as low as 18, and they boil off hydrogen at 2, water at 18, nitrogen at 28, oxygen at 32, and only have CO2 and H2SO4 and the like remaining in the leftover distillate, while Jupiter boils off nothing, but earth boils off hydrogen at 2, helium at weight 4, but does not boil off methane at 16, water at 18, nor nitrogen 28, oxygen at 32, etc. So liquid water does not exist on Mars under present circumstances because it boils off fast from the surface pond and then boils off fast from the atmosphere into outer space. If in the past the temperature were colder, by ether lower solar output (like ice age on earth), or by Mars being in a farther away orbit, and then getting knocked closer by something else, but farther away it was just the proper amount of cold to hold water on its surface atmosphere, at least you could have had a saturated water vapor atmosphere on Mars, but it might have been under zero celsius, to where yes, you have water, but it's all ice, like at the poles, and never liquid, simply because Mars lacks the gravity to hold it in the atmosphere under enough pressure where it can stay there over 0 degrees required by liquid water, otherwise the only water on Mars is in the solid/gas transition range in the graph below: http://www.sv.vt.edu/classes/M...
I think they are confusing wind erosion with water erosion, or maybe ice/glacier erosion remotely possible if you fly off on a tangent of coincidences and luck, but never liquid water. Mars is too small for water. Venus is a whole lot of different story, about the same size as Earth, and all it would need to get life on it pronto is that at its Lagrange point it needs to wear some huge ass shades to be cool.

Yeah.

The GOP is the party of military perverts, hunters, WWF fans, and they don't like artsy fartsy movies, but love a good Hollywood flick full of sex, guns, violence, car chases, and action. They also love gassing foreginers as labrats as they push the boundaries and ask questions about OSHA and EPA regulations, and do secret tests where the rubber meets the road. I made really good money being a guinea pig for them and getting gassed by their less than lethal chemical weapon's research things, and it was employment at will where they just let me leave when I wanted to, I was not obligated to work there by other than messing up my job stability and work history and such. But I too learned valuable lessons in real life, and they too. Like, when handling chlorine gas, they used to dress up in astronaut gear for safety, and when one of the chlorine reaction cylinders got stuck and they had an incident, that they could not fix, they called the supplier, and watch him do it, while they stood in their astronaut self contained breathing apparatus gear. So the supplier guy, while eatin a sandwich with one hand, asked what's the problem, they told him, so he held his breath, walked up to the leaky cylinder, and turned it off with his hand, and came back asking anything else? And kept eating his sandwich. That's what republicans like. Some real life cut the crud macho shit, as opposed to the artsy fartsy oh lets be safe no matter how expensive and retarded democrat crap. And the real answer is somewhere in between, some kind of balance, because, after all, the dense and heavy chlorine gas was the first chemical weapon used to flood the French and German trenches during WWI, with mass casualties of pneumonia but in the end the kill rate was much less than bullets and other ammo, so what's preferable to disable an enemy, a full kill or less than lethal? It's reeeally reaaally complicated, and there is no easy answer, and neither too macho idiots getting themselves sick left and right, like lemmings jumping to the sea, are right, nor artsy fartsy pussies scared to get a whiff of bleach and dressing up as astronauts with self contained scuba diving breathing apparatus while they pour the bleach from walmart into their washing machine. Yeah, that's the kind of stuff they are secretly studying. Pollution, safety, health, less than lethal weapons, etc, and it kinda sucks being a guinea pig for them, and they try to use criminals or ex criminals or terrorist suspects, also the pay is decent, but it's like making minimum wage at a clean job is much preferable to getting gassed with chemical weapons research gases, that, hopefully have been through the animal testing stage of gassing rats first and none died, but still its like there is no amount of money that makes it worthwhile to get pneumonia on a job, or shorter life expectancy, or mental/brain nerve damage, as a lot of chemical weapons are nerve agents. What's right and wrong? The most important part is to not be forced to do it, like a prisoner, or obligated by a contract like debt, or having to raise kids, also there might be something about reproductive issues such as those Spartans who have already sired a son in the movie 300 participated in the suicide mission, so coupled with a life insuance/workman's comp policy it might be a different ballgame too for fathers, ethics is really really complicated. Also people that apply for military duty accept that they are willing to risk their own welfare in service of the greater good, like the country, but then you have to be careful with the research not to be a mere waste, by either not getting any information because there is not enough effect, nor by getting too much effect and destruction like brain damage or nerve damage. It was like I was immune to the treatement for a long time, then suddenly quit, without seemingly being sick enough, and then I'd get like job interviews in other places, next to a police station talking to 3 guys that look like police officers, or more like military people, and they test me on the basics, including wpm typing speed, and draw their conclusions and off I go into the real world again. Until it might be time to do another round of this making a living by fishing the cheese out of the mousetrap hoping not to get caught in it as a mouse. The rewards are high, but the risks are huge. Who likes to eat cheese like that when you can just eat some old seeds or grain or whatever chipmunks harvest, instead of cheese? A minimum wage job with no overtime is much nicer, than a high paying really risky one with a million hours of overtime, so I personally much prefer safety, health, comfort and minimum wage, but that also means no ability to raise a family and sure extinction like that, and being called a pussy by republicans. Whatever. I prefer minimum wage. Especially that it gives me a great excuse not to buy Obamacare, it's like what's my incentive to make more money when the government takes it from me anyway, like demolish my house, forces me to buy shit I don't wanna buy like insurance, forces me to pay annual car registration fees, forces the landlords to pay high property tax, it's like I love minimum wage just to stick it to Obama and say here, motherfucker, it's not enough money to pay for your stupid retarded bullshit laws you passed, and as long as you take my money and give it to the mofos on welfare, and keep me childless that way, I don't have a good enough incentive to get up in the morning and go out and make that dollar and be productive, because you take it away anyway, and if I don't make it, what are you gonna take?

If you could create partial wave function collapses, or partial interactions, in that a particle spread out to the other end of the galaxy interacts with something there partially, without fully collapsing the whole wave function there, and based on that interaction whatever is left over over here would have different leftover properties, then superluminal velocity communication would be possible, even if matter and energy transport such as a ship would still be stuck limited by the speed of light. As in, your body and ships could get around only so fast, but you could do communication like telepathy instantly back and forth to the other branches of this galaxy without a lag that interaction via transmitted and modulated photons and the like would suffer from. Have they ever come across partial wavefunction collapses, that leave the quantum wave's ("quantum particle's") state tainted? If you could figure out how to trigger a collapse reproducibly, including how to trigger a partial wavefunction collapse, reproducibly, than watch the other collapse transmit data that way, you would break the speed limit of light on communications like Internet and satellite. Who likes speed limits anyway?

PS. Sigh, I only get 2 posts per day so I have to save it in a text file and wait for the time before I can post other than anonymous coward. But the above are some more ideas I had when I wrote that other post. I'm out of that train of thought now, other than, imaging ping times of 2 milliseconds to Pluto and playing an Internet game with them, or 2 millisecond ping times to Alpha Centauri or halfway across the galaxy. Would be nice, right? Reality shows, video conversations, etc. For now a roundtrip pingtime from Earth to Sun is 16 minutes, and if there were a spaceship near opposite of Earth in the same orbit as Earth, it would have an Internet ping time of 32 minutes. I'm too lazy to look up Mars, but for now you can't really play an online game with people from Mars, other than a correspondence chess, where you mail the next move, it arrives in an envelope, they look at it, and then mail you back a move. People used to play chess like that.

There is a misunderstanding here.
Light does not behave both as a wave and a particle.
Light behaves only as a wave, with peculiar properties, called quantum waves.
Light is always a wave-packet extended out in space, not localized into a very limited domain as a particle would be, but it always interacts or collapses and disappears as a particle, at a single location, as a quantum jump or quantum transition of suddenness a pointlike point in space. That's all.
They only way to get a continuous-like energy transmission out of light is to have many such "atoms" of energy act like they are an infinitesimal and continuous phenomena, just like pressure on an engine cylinder piston might seem like some smooth, continuous uniform function, but in reality, according to the kinetic theory of gases, or even observable under the microscope as the Brownian motion, the force on the cylinder piston is actually quantized and happens in jumps, in a sort of non-smooth, non-differentiable mathematical function way, when you inspect the devil in the details part.

Light is a quantum wave, not a quantum particle, nor a continuous smoothly variable wave.
Which is what Max Planck came up with as the only possible answer to solve the ultraviolet catastrophy paradox.
He never said light was a particle, in that it is limited to a point like region of space.
That's all the double slit experiment proves:
Light or electrons or all quantum waves (we customarily call quantum particles) are:
1. Extended and spread out in space as they travel about as spread out waves in between quantum interactions, including they self diffract, i.e. they only interact with themselves.
2. Every time they interact with other particles, or in ways we call "quantum transitions" they seem to pick a seemingly random point to do it at, based on probabilities as far as we can describe, and they interact in a very sudden way in a very limited infinitesimal point like point in space, which causes their wave function collapse suddenly everywhere else, including halfway across the galaxy and all come together concentrated in on local point, and as a consequence give birth to another quantum thing, which may be spread out in space freely traveling about, like the electron was before in the double slit electron, or it may give rise to a "captured", limited to a very local domain of vibration, but still not infinitesimally small along the lines of a wavefunction collapse interaction, but still somewhat extended in space, such as stuck in an electron shell in an atom, or inside the nucleus in a weird way, an electron joined with a proton and antineutrino giving a neutron, but it's more complicated than that, instead we ascribe it as quarks, an electron is one configuration of quarks, a proton another, etc, quarks being 1/3, 2/3 in value, and only combinations of quarks that yield whole numbers are allowed, or something like that.

So there is no wave-particle duality, in that quantum particles have wave tasting properties such as diffraction, and they have particle tasting properties, such as momentum, or quantumness. All there is is a single contraption called a quantum wave, which is neither a quantum particle limited in space as it gets around, nor a continuous wave that spreads out as it gets around, including it interacts in a spread out and continuous fractional way. Not possible. Quantum waves travel about spread out, and every time they interact with something other than themselves, they do so suddenly, at an infinitesimal local point which withdraws the spread out parts and annihilates them suddenly even from halfway across the galaxy distance, at speeds faster than the speed of light. We don't know what triggers a collapse, the most we know is statistics and probabilities. For now.

Yeah.
But how can you ascertain that? Have laser detectors? What if they used focused microwave heating? You'd have to get the full EM spectrum, with a sensor different than temperature, as you already know the temperature went high.

Often though, such "mysterious practice attacks" are staged, and used as a pretext to start a war. That's what the Germans did when blitzkrieging Poland, and that's what the Japanese did in Korea before attacking China. I think it was train sabotages staged in both cases, which triggered a retaliation along the lines of 911, though it would be a hard sell to say 911 was a staged thing to give the US an excuse to enter war and improve or jump start its economy by giving people a job, if you have no market demand for anything, start a war, and have people make weapons, then these people who earned that money in turn will take it to a barber, then the barber takes it to a restaurant, then the waitress takes it to a grocery store, etc, etc. Still, 911 was not staged quite to the level that the WW2 igniting fake train sabotages were.

So you never know the true actual cause, and you have to take all "news" with a grain of salt. This is my ultraparanoid side speaking. Hello.

But when tensions get high around the world, and everyone worries about the other guy and wants to stay one step ahead in the military game, sometimes they irk to test out their gadgedts, with micro-skirmishes, so it's like you have a fuzzy conflict with 0.004% engagement as opposed to all or nothing 1.0000 we are at war, or 0.0000 we are at peace, and in such conflict and tension even fake news are that, a micro-skirmish in psychological warfare.

So who knows? Even if someone knows, when something is released as news, it may still be fake. And lots of stuff go down in the world that are important and never make it to be public news, so the question is sometimes how or why who decided to make this a news and why?

hahahaha
ceriosli, y da fuk wud dey kip piss in around kreatin al bedo deilie, wen u ken jus poot up sum flippo bowl sheydz via a re mote by da Lagrange pt bit ween da Earth & da Sun? Laik sowler penolz & luminumum me rerz, maid phrom looner metierielz? i bin a staut ad voket of sutch a teng, & I tink sum body hoo got da meenz shewd dew it, cuz I b brawk, e.g. I kent aphord no rokitz 2 go 2 da moon 2 DIY ma celph. Lewk, I ken teevn spel, c?

I used to make a living working with organophosphates (basically octyl phosphoric like acids) to run chemical process lines, and I had a hunch of the whole thing being an experiment for getting gassed with less than lethal weapons, of possibly phosphate nature, different from the above mostly benign chemicals, me being the lab rat getting gassed, and should I show at a hospital, detected organophosphates can be ascribed to exposure on the job to the benign stuff, possibly allergy to it. That was the only place I ever worked at by buying COBRA health insurance from my previous job, it was obvious during the interview tour that it would be needed. Second time around I wasn't as chicken, went without insurance. Third time around they talked me into it when I said I did not want to waste their money. Still, I got sick three times and they let me quit three times, they emphasized, they emphasized that I came there out of my own good will and nobody was forcing me to come there. I did not even have to do the two week notice. It's kinda like making a living through stealing the cheese from the mousetraps, if you're a mouse. The rewards are high. Yeah. Whatever. At least the rewards were high, unlike at the very next job, getting near minimum wage where I got a whole lot sicker from mandatory hand sanitizer use, and some kind of floating fuzz airborne infection, plus being left all alone sitting in a chair working with nobody for yards around me, for 12 hrs, and just got insanely sick sitting there, even without hand sanitizer, felt kinda like a deep sunburn, my best guess was xrays. So it's like, what's the difference, it's mousetraps everywhere anyway, except some traps have cheese, and some have some bitter green grass. Which one do you prefer choosing? So they say fourth time is a charm.

I just got hit with some grey goo, war is evolving, throat yeast infection, I wonder why, I guess posting on slashdot the way I do has consequences. Whatever, is this all you got? Bring it on motherfuckers, keep'm coming. I'm on it. Ha ha ha.

After a lot of ways have failed, including shocking the tooth gums with 3V electric - ouch, it's like nothing, nothing, nothing, then an avalanche pierces through and burns like hell, and it doesn't work - so what seems to work and the way I'm fighting it right now is:

1. Soak in saliva 10 mg solid salt salty tasting sodium bromide from Walmart pool chemical.
2. Once nicely soaked, inhale some bleach chlorine gas that should generate elemental bromine by driving the redox potential oxidizing inside the cells, even from outside the cell walls with all channels shut, and bromide, is there to accept it in a Trojan horse behind the cell wall kinda way.
3. Hit it with a UV blue light LED that should activate elemental bromine into free radicals, kinda like methane reaction with bromine is initiated. Once you brominate the crap out of the yeast's internal enzymes, iodine based hormones and DNA, it's done, it's better and faster than trying to drink a lot of mountain dew with brominated vegetable oil that only releases bromine related stuff on digestion by the fungus.
4. Into the cleared, sterile spot lick and then swish with saliva around some green lemon fungus, that produces penicillin-like stuff. I think the true penicillin mold is white, and this green one produces some antibiotic that tastes sweet, somewhat like penicillin but it's not penicillin. When I was a kid every time I got really sick my snot turned green, that's how I knew I was sick, or maybe that's the right color when I'm sick. So you have to pack something friendly into the sterile fungus conduits, else if you leave it empty, the remnants on the disease yeast in other parts of your body will flow back into the dead conduits and repopulate and you're back to square one. Once the green fungus from citrus that knows how to make penicillin takes a foothold, then enjoy the fight between it and the disease. If not successful, and the disease wins, then try again.

The green fungus from citrus is friendly. Citrus fungus was discovered by A. Fleming. Fleming did not discover penicillin. Fungi did billions of years ago. What Fleming discovered is how to infect yourself with penicillin making fungus, and have a controlled substance regulated by law in your body for free, without breaking the law, plus as an active live culture that makes other antibodies besides penicillin and really knows how to fight in the highly acidic sour conditions of the grey goo, war is evolving scenario. Biowarfare. Happening as I'm typing above my right wisdom tooth, and the grey goo is losing, until I fall asleep from anesthetics, or eat something tainted, then start over.

PS. A selenium sulfide shampoo soak, that any fungus grabs onto and can't say no to, even in overdose, is best prior to the bromide/chlorine/UV treatment. I think even selenium sulfide is UV reactive and activated, not sure. With light, no matter how much crystal clear glass like goo the fungus ejects, it's not like a chemical that gets purged, though you do deplete the internal bromine stores, so you might have to repeat the above for a while until it tires out.

Microsoft is fucking up. I thought Linux or the GPL was their antichrist. Their job is to maintain and sustain their own genetic variability in the computing genepool, without going extinct or exterminating others completely. Microsoft is fucking up on both fronts. All they have to do to compete with Linux (that used to run google.com) or BSD (that used to run yahoo.com) is to drop that fucking stupid ass client access license from Windows Server. People hate and despise getting screwed like that. Client access license? Are you kidding me? Sell me a server that takes up to 10 connections, up to 100, up to 1000, or up to 10,000, or up to 100,000, or up to 1,000,000 concurrently, and don't fucking make me hoard a pile or these certificates per seat with the woven thread and funky official holier than thou humbug about them. All people wanna do with those CAL certificates is wipe their shitty asses. That's Microsoft's only problem on the server front. Their job is not to accept Linux, because now they can no longer attack it like they used to, once they give it their blessing, but to push their own shit, and push it in balance and harmony with the rest of the ecosystem.
Your job is
1. to survive, or go down fighting for something that you care about to survive
2. to not exterminate other varieties in your vehement competition against them
Microsoft has and still is fucking up royally on both fronts. We don't want them running Linux. We don't want them to give their blessing to Linux. And especially we don't want no fucking cloud with blackmailed monthly access fees to our data held hostage. What we want is something better than a "Vista sucks" on the desktop, a better and improved Win2K or XP, leaner and meaner, with less garbage and snooping piled on into it.

Intellectual property rights were erected during the founding father's days out of nothing, to create a better world, to create and enhance creativity, but intellectual property, unlike, say, land or chattel property, was always meant to be temporary, and ultimately enter the public domain, where all human knowledge and information ultimately belongs, including all GPL stuff after copyright expiration should enter public domain. Initially the terms were 14 years renewable to 28. These days we have temporary intellectual property, but it just got extended to 90 years from 70 around 1999. Why stop there? Why not have a 547 year and 6 month term? What's fair? Just how much more extra incentive did Walt Disney have to create Mickey Mouse if he knew that in 1999 the terms on his property were gonna be 90 years not 70?

Intellectual property was not erected to create a world of extorting or hogging property then blackmailing everybody for access to it. Such as music artists that get paid 3 cents out of a dollar for a song, the rest goes to the labels or publishers that extorted a signature to sign the property rights over. Yes, marketing, distribution, being a merchant is hard work that does deserve a fair cut. But fair is all a matter of price. Yes, sometimes people throw stuff away for peanuts because that's their perceived value, and then whoever buys it and resells it, to someone who values that item much more, yes, there is this winning, or lottery effect, or money for free effect in the world, because perceived values are allowed to fluctuate widely. But there are situations like music artists, who would like a bigger cut of the price, but they are strongarmed into deals, and there are consumers who want a lower price on the music, and both these tendencies tend to cut into the profit of the middle man, the publisher, or intellectual property right hogger. Just cuz the rules on intellectual property have artifacts that can be technically abused, you should not forget about the good will or good intentions of why they were erected in the first place: to spur creation of new material. How is the richest guy on the planet fit in with this picture? Obviously he carries a lot of bad will, just like Carnegie and Rockefeller did, but not because people are petty and jealous, but they have this sense of fairness or fair cut. Like, instead of making 50 billion for yourself with something that started out as MS DOS (copying CP/M almost the same exact way as ReactOS copies Windows, or as Windows copied the look and feel of Apple), why isn't 500 million enough for a family? Instead of paying 80K for top programmers fresh out of college and run them like a slave til they burn out, because by that time it's time to hire the latest experts, and in computing a 22 year old is a greater expert than a 55 year old, or at least used to be, in the 90's, why not create a stable world, with a career for a lifetime, and pay these kids 300K instead of 80K, and make them compete for the jobs internally, whether old or young, like HP had various units during the HP way days, often duplicating each other's work, but those that did a better job made it, and those that did not, got disbanded, and always fresh seed, fresh teams started.

What's with this fucking cloud and even more power mongering, then wondering why games like Kill Bill are made, whack-a-mole style? They create a lot of bad will with their power mongering to where people who have half a brain of an intellect and some sense of fairness and justice will do anything not to have to work for Microsoft, or even deal with it. You can make all that money but you can't take it to the grave. Yes, you can give it to your tribe, and that's important too, but somehow, some, at least 50/50 deals between workers and owners sound more fair than 97% owners and 3% creators, or even 3% owners and 97% creators is much better, and spurs creativity, spurs a better world, the reason why intellectual property was erected and created out of nothing, not for setting up a world where people blackmail each other for basic access to knowledge, where even all public domain is endangered, and where terms are temporary, but practically infinite. Otherwise it may be necessary to go back to the no intellectual property whatsoever world. It all comes down to overly arrogant, aggressive, exterminating others behaviro or overly lame, overly pussy, overly self exterminating behavior, neither of which strike a good balance.

Microsoft's job is to create good products, not the "bless the GPL." If they wanna go about it the way Novell Suse went, that the Linux manager, Yast, is copyrighted, while the rest of the stuff is GPL, and the system won't run right without the manager, or won't run at all, I think even Stallman would accept that, as long as improvements to the GPL sourcecode are also released.

When selling a server or operating system, the true price is not the embodied intellectual property, but the guarantee, or the insurance policy, that it will function. So the same product, like Windows Server, could be sold to a small business of 50 people, for $200, for a company of 500 for $5000, and to a company of 20,000 or a bank, military or hospital, for $1 million, and in that, the idea is that should the product fail, that purchase price is actually an insurance policy, if the 200 dollar version fails, there is a 50,000 compensation, but if the $1 million fails catastrophically, there is an insurance policy with the upper limit near $1 billion, such as stock losses, etc. This way companies that pay 1 million for a server every 10 years or 20 years know that the people who sold it to them have a strong incentive to make sure it does not fail, or will go to the end of the world and move mountains to fix a problem instead of having to shell out a billion. It's not really Linux or Windows that matters when you sell Server versions at high cost, but the insurance policy that tags along with it. And a small business of 50 should not be stuck paying exorbitant licenses, including per seat client access licenses, or even a large business should be able to choose the risks they assume, so even a 30 billion dollar business full of cheap asses who want to buy Windows Server for $50, they can, and they get a good product, but when they have an issue and call tech support, they get put on hold for 30 minutes before someone talks to them, and be told to please wait while tech supports finishes masturbating, before they can explain their problem, all based on the kind of insurance policy they carry, and the amount at stake from tech supports perspective. Even the military does not want communist linux with nobody to chase or be responsible for it. Who wrote that piece of code in linux? Who knows? Somebody! When Microsoft sells Linux Novell Suse Yast style, if they so choose to, to the military, what they mean is that they reinspected the code and they are underwriting it, to a certain amount of insurance policy coverage limit. That's what military leaders want to see. I want somebody responsible for the software I'm running, I don't want it for free and I have to be the expert myself, I'd rather pay somebody, but I don't wanna get raped in the ass on price constantly, nor have to put up with the Vista sucks bullshit, or put all my military data on some private cloud.

But for the sake of computing genetic variability, we'd much prefer a leaner and meaner and improved version of Microsoft Windows from Microsoft, not some Microsoft Linux, maybe a Microsoft BSD like OS-XYZ, that they own as private property, pay their programmers right and give a good price to their customers. And all that stuff should run on x86, arm, mips, etc, etc, all for the sake of genetic variability. Last time NT ran on anything but x86 was NT4 on DEC alpha. Just cuz Microsoft and Intel become winners of some competitive race, and they are good at exterminating others and undercutting price and giving a higher quality product, that still does not mean there is no need for genetic variability in computing. And everybody jumping on the Linux bandwagon, sell stuff where other people do the work for free, is not really the answer, even if you reinspect their work and underwrite it with a high coverage limit insurance policy.

You could add batteries to either kind of sub, moreover coolant pumps can be converted to inefficient but very quiet Tesla pumps used to pump pieces of chicken or live fish, because they work by friction.

The only giveaway for a sub is the sound echo pinging, but even that could mimic a whale or similar, recorded sounds, or it can be at a level low enough where the signal to noise ratio of the echo is near the detection limit, so it does not spread very far and gets absorbed. When anchored such a sub could stop pinging, and nothing penetrates large bodies of water, such as electromagnetic waves or xrays or gamma rays, with the exception of neutrinos, which are on the other hand very hard to detect.

With full recycling of carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen, and even extraction of it from seawater, a submarine could exist indefinitely self sufficient, closed circle (i.e. if all the seawater is polluted with radiation, it can recycle everything internally, using its reactor as an artificial sun to live off, in an abstract sense) and undetected, except when it runs out of fuel. And then the key strategic thing becomes mining the fuel on the sea floor, or extraction from seawater. But yeah, hiding of humans from even artificial intelligence that got out of hand on Earth would be possible better deep within the ocean, than anywhere in nearby outer space, even 70,000 years trip away, where it's easy to see, unless the spaceship there too finds a body of liquid water at tolerable pressures and enough dilute concentration of fuel to hide in.

I keep talking about how exodus to space stations is a simple solution from global biotech warfare getting out of hand or even a nuclear holocaust getting out of hand, with the exception of artificial intelligence getting out of hand, however now I realize that there is a chance to hide even from that. However, robots that could replicate, could all be submarines themselves, and produce enough units of themselves to do a one time clean sweep of all ocean waters, including mapping out the crevices surveyor style, so I guess, against 200 trillion robots patrol sweeping the oceans it would be difficult to hide, so one would have to hide behind a block of mountain, even deep within the sea, assuming robots are not interested in patrolling through solid rock and magma, but then you'd be stuck there, inside an totally isolated world or solid rock beneath the earth, maybe with a tap to a volcano magma from which to extract the fuel to live off of, and you could never come out of there or risk getting detected, so you could sit there indefinitely, at least until the Sun turns into a red giant and gobbles up earth, a few billions years from now, but on outer rocky planets like the Moons of Jupiter or Pluto or the Rock-ring of Saturn you might be able to hide out for a long long time, because the Sun will not swallow those, as far as we can tell, and then your time limit becomes the natural decay of the fuel which disappears little by little as the billions of years tick by, and eventually you'd starve, unless you come up with better physics and technology.

So the way the Navy, with the best nuclear engineers on the planet, and their ships running on reactors that are fueled once and last for 15-20 years before refueling or scrapping the whole ship, they could use ice bullets as the low cost do it all ammunition, and, during say a beach assault or even carrier planes and helicopters or drones running on lithium batteries recharged from the reactor, they could also load them with electric powered railguns and shoot ice bullets at things. True they are not as bad as grenade launchers that detonate on impact, but at least you could reserve the explosives for on impact things, as opposed to propulsion duties which you could do with a railgun, and some kind of camera flash charging setup charging a flywheel or supercapacitor for the instant high drain shooting part. So during a beach assault, if you run out of the metal bullets, you don't need a resupply and you can keep pounding the enemy, including with cannonball weight objects (and ice is 8x less dense than bronze or steel, so you need 8x the volume of cubic root of 8=twice the diameter of ice crystal ball to create the same weight of impact as a cannon ball. During a beach assault they could have a generator running on either gasoline, or ammonia from aboard a ship, or just a mobile lithium or whatever battery they can easily keep making out of seawater, including sodium air battery, or sodium sulfur, or sodium chlorine, and have one mobile car provide electricity to the troops in the trenches via powerchords. That would put a severe strain on operations and fighting abilities, being tethered to a power source with a cable, or even soldiers microwaved and fried from the accidents and errors of tracking via a cable-less wireless delivery of power (unless they look like R2D2 and C3PO and wear reflective clothing), but on the upside, on economics, you have a fully autonomous Navy unit able to function even if all of it's resupply lines have been cut, other than having to obtain its food from the sea also, like nothing to eat but fish and crabs and seaweed all year long. That way the tax payers would not even have to support them, but they'd be self sufficient, including making their own bullets, and all you gotta do is give them a new reactor loaded every 20 years.

But this idea of ice bullets is not novel, I think it was invented in the 70's in practical form during the height of espionage between the USSR and USA, where spy guns would shoot poisoned ice bullets, that leave a very tiny mark at the point of entry, and then they melt and dissolve in the body, leaving no trail for the autopsy. They contain frozen heart attack poison and the whole thing looks like a natural death from a heart attack, or pneumonia, anyeurism, etc. I think George Carlin died that way, after pissin off Da Man too much when he got really bold toward his old age no longer scared of dying, and said shit like there is a gang or club that own our country, they own you and me, there is a club oppressing everybody, and you and I are not in it. Which sounds very much along the lines of anticapitalist communist instigators propaganda messages about the factory owning burgeoisie exploiting the wage earning proletariat through property hogging of power without contributing much, and of course neither extreme view is correct, but whoever shot him, did it over no, we're tired of listening to this, this kind of talk is why we went into Vietnam, to stop the spread of communism, that, like Obamacare, takes all your private property from you and gives it to another guy, taking away your incentive to go to work and bring home the money because it's not yours anyway. It's like why should I go to work under Obamacare, all these billing agencies want a piece of me like I'm a James Brown sample, and then I can stay home, not have any money, and tell anyone sorry, we're closed today, out of samples, you gotta find another sucker to bum your next dollar out of because i don't have any. Why should I not just sit home and rest and sleep, why should I bust my ass bringing home a dollar filling my fingertips full or metal splinters and my clothes drenched in machine oil when they take it all from me. That's what Obamacare communism is, and I might be willing to pay a tax like that, but I'm not willing to pay some private organizations profit over things that hose my entire budget with cost, and I have to throw my hand up in the air and say I give up, I resign, I can't win this battle against all these bills, where housing used to be the dominant in the pareto analysis, but here comes Obamacare like a new Godzilla or King Kong in town and lays waste to my entire keeping it together budget efforts. That's communism for you, take all your private property, just like in Jamestown where the first settlers died off in bulk, until everyone got 3 acres of their own private property, and suddenly the colonies flourished, because all of a sudden people started to give a fuck, they felt like they reaped the benefits of their own labor, instead of handing it all over to somebody else, even the collective, let alone another private entity within the collective, like private insurance companies. No, I take a fucking chance in life, and my orders are that I want to live, but should I get in an accident and am bleeding, do not fucking call the ambulance but let me bleed to death on the scene, just because I want to take that chance and have a chance at living, instead of wasting the remainder of my years on trying to scrape together the 900/mo health insurance that these companies will want long term, out of which 500 is profit, and you still have to hire lawyers you can't trust and fight the insurance companies every time they reject a claim you file. Bullshit. Yeah I talk like this, and where is my ice crystal frozen poison bullet that puts me to sleep? Oh, I don't get that luxury, instead I will have to beg to die, and suffer a bit first, cuz all this stuff must really be pissin off some people.