And if all the apps are windows based?

Simple. I'm being meta, you're not. YOU'RE feeding the trolls as you responded to such a ridiculous statement with a ridiculous statement of your own. If that doesn't qualify, I don't know what does. And this is where I step off, as I've now explained it to you twice.

Yes, I've owned a PS3 for about 3 years now, and have used the XMB in different iterations on different equipment where it's been implemented. The XBL interface is no better. Just off the top of my head, the general criticisms which have been leveled at it which I agree with:

- The system menu is way to crowded and has a number of different settings which can't be discerned without first going into them to see what the options are, usually resulting in a lot of back and forth.

  - Using left and right to navigate the main bar AND using right to enter submenus is unintuitive for people not used to the xmb.

  - The modality of moving into certain menu items differs; sometimes you get a submenu, sometimes you get a wizard-like string of options, sometimes you get a submenu that doesn't use the xmb.

Basically the xmb would be excellent for FLAT spaces. Hierarchical menu structures make it unwieldy.

ALL of you are ridiculous. You're arguing against a stupid iPhone claim which logic would say is wrong, even without evidence (and I *OWN* an iPhone) with an even dumber argument that is entirely anecdotally based. It's like dance of the dumbasses here.

Or more specifically, the Motorola Droid commercials. It's like they were written and targeted towards 14 year olds. They heavy-handed robotic imagery that isn't interesting. The "edgy" flickering logos. The robotic arms. "Becoming one with your phone." It totally turns me off because it seems so... dated.

OMG!!!!!! I know someone with an Android phone and it stopped working! And then I knew someone with another Android phone and IT STOPPED WORKING TOO!

Give me a break.

Ugh, XMB is the WORST UI ever. Like all Sony interfaces, the UI is pretty but ultimately terrible.

If you knew about provisioning usable IPs to end users, you would know that subnetting on subnet boundaries is a LOT nicer than handing out individual IPs (ala home ISPs). Basically the overhead / admin of handing out one ISP per endpoint is terrible unless you're doing DHCP, which is why a lot of ISPs operate that way. Likewise the second you switch over to their business offerings, you either get slightly glorified consumer level IP space (one IP, handed out by DHCP), or you get allocated a subnet. Each one is on a completely different network because mixing the two is a pain in the ass. When you get single statics, most of the time you're secretly getting a subnet allocated to you, but it's either filtered down to one IP or they don't do any filtering, and you can use the other IPs and they don't even bother checking (this happens quite a lot).

And as someone else said, returning IPs to ISPs does nothing for coalescing those into usable groups. It may give that ISP or even the provider above it back some space, but there's no real way you're going to be able to help out a starved network provider on the other side of the world with some freed IPs of your own.

And here we come to the crux of the argument. I hear all these PC gamers whining and moaning about how console ruined everything and dumbed down their games. Well boo-fucking-hoo. Last time I checked, no one forced you to buy a PC and set it up to be a gaming machine. Last time I checked, you could see well ahead of time what was in the PC gaming pipeline and therefore make a decision on whether it offered you a good return on investment. I didn't buy an Xbox 360 expecting to be top of the line graphically for more than a short period of time; similarly, the writing on the wall's been there FOREVER.

Do I think that's cool? Hell no. I think PC games have suffered in certain areas, yes. But I'm not bitching about it, because that's what the market decided. If you want to change it, vote with your dollars, or set up your own game dev team and start coding the next huge PC only release that will light people's asses to buy PC hardware to run it and demand more like it.

I'm sorry to inform you of the obvious, but as soon as something goes mainstream (which gaming has done for years now), you're going to get a glut of money catering to the largest group out there. You. Are. A. Niche. Deal with it.

And... you just confirmed eveything I said. Good job!

I'm loathe to tell you this because it SEEMS like trolling, but it's not; if you write like this, even in an informal public forum, with bad grammar, no punctuation, a strange logical string that doesn't make any sense, and an overwhelming sense of mis-placed esteem and hubris, you aren't doing yourself any favors. You come off like someone who maybe wanted to graduate in the top 500, but really ended up near the bottom.

Multitouch new? I suggest you look at where Apple got multitouch to begin with.

Since Asterisk is a sip proxy/pbx and this is its main function, I would say yes.

And if I don't use any of google's services, which I don't, because I like keeping my data to myself?

Ridiculous. I am all for Unix tools and prefer the Unix way for most server related tasks and apps, but Samba4 doesn't even come close to being able to dealing with an ADSI install. Even doing something basic like rolling out GPOs is either a giant pain in the ass, requires Windows-based tools still, or is impossible. As a generic SMB server, Samba is excellent. As a domain controller/active directory store, it has a LONG way to go before it's even close to viable as a replacement for AD.