Comment Re:Well, she was an interim. (Score 1) 467
And they made the announcement on a Friday afternoon as close to close of business as possible.
And they made the announcement on a Friday afternoon as close to close of business as possible.
Rather than improving the site and taking on refugees from Reddit they decided to double down on terrible design and appeal to the worst of them.
It's like Italy deciding to turn away all the moderates and only deciding to accept
Meanwhile those of us that have been around Slashdot since 2000 have pretty much thrown our hands up.
I wish I had enough knowledge and freetime to rewrite INN with moderation. Usenet 2.0. It seems that the Eternal September has hit the web.
Fark has become Reddit lite. They went full SJW, removed boobies from the front page, redesigned it, etc.
With all of the coders on here you'd think someone would figure out a way to update INN to include moderation of some sort. Put a nice web front end on it and make it all open over API/RFC and let other people make your clients.
Not everyone is cut out for making effective Power Point presentations but we got rid of standalone presentation makers years ago. It's what my dad used to do. Now everyone puts together their own presentations (For better or worse). Coding is going to end up being the same may.
You'll have mid level managers that can do it effectively to convey their idea. There will be mid level managers that put together terrible pieces of code.
My manager learned VBA and uses it for everything. It's gotten to the point where his year end reviews, budget, etc are all one massively interconnected set of spread sheets. But it means he works 1/10th as hard as his counterparts who still do it the old way 'by hand'
Why does everything have to be on a single site? The whole point of the internet was to not put all the eggs in one basket so what did people do? Put all their eggs into one basket.
Why
Reddit has a great grasp on the breadth of knowledge but not on the depth. Sometimes a forum dedicated to something with separate subjects broken down into separate subjects.
Usenet just needed a good moderation system built on top of it.
Personally I wouldn't be opposed to 3 separate types of 'moderation' that can be enabled/disabled.
- No moderation. 4Chan, Usenet
- Everyone gets to moderation Reddit
- Not everyone gets to moderate. Slashdot. Mod points are handed out at random.
Each have their advantages or disadvantages. The "inline sharing" is something that should be done client side anyway. After using reddit for a few years and coming back to Slashdot I realize how much more I like markdown for just doing forum posts. Not that I have a problem with HTML but it takes a bit longer to type out the same content. Add a web front end and call it a day.
The best part is if you made it a RFC people could run their own usenet circles. I would love to get a slashdot replacement going outside of corporate control. If you host nodes in a few countries it would be hard to take down. (It's how Usenet was designed).
I'm ready to jump ship from Reddit and Slashdot to somewhere else and would prefer if that somewhere else was a protocol rather than a specific site.
I'm trying to keep Slashdot alive here with a light story and a chance for some good old geek nostalgia/venting.
Me too. >serious<Wanna make a new site?>/serious<
Just like College Humor before them.
It's already half implemented in BitCoin, just have Karma"Coin" and make it a distributed system.
And that's why I like not putting all of my discussion eggs in one basket.
I personally don't care if someone is a racist or a fatty when they talk about their opinions on technology. I'm sure I've picked up a great number of things over the years from people I may not have agreed with on other subjects. I'll just copy and paste my old post on what slashdot needed to do
Dice you've successfully figured out how to run one of the most best 'news' and opensource websites and run them into the ground for profit.
I'm glad I had Slashdot over Reddit when I was an angsty tenager. I took pride in trying to get +5 comments and put effort into doing so. Honestly slashdot made me a better writer. Reddit is nice for short terse communication but sometimes I want to "talk with adults".
Slashdot didn't need much. Unicode support. Newer HTML5 support. CSS3. Make a decent mobile app, move away from HTML for Markdown. Moderation made sense and was much better than a simple +- system. Voting was randomly enabled and you couldn't both vote and comment on the same article. -2 to 5 also limited band wagoning. It's easier to recover from a bunch of early 'down votes'. Instead you drove everyone away to other sites (which still don't quite scratch the
On 'Gamergate', 'sexual equality', 'gender issues', we don't care "Trans-gendered" is a big thing in the news these days (and especially around tech) but a long, long time ago I remember a Mac developer made the transition. (This was in the late '90s.) I read her bio. Shrugged my shoulders went "Neat" and moved on. Why? Because she made some awesome Mac games. Most other person I know in IT or engineering think the same way. None of us care what you do with your body or who you take to the bedroom. I do care if you can cut it and get your work done or contribute to society.
On the other side of that is Randi Harper (FreeBSD Girl) [twitter.com] who actually write decent code. I've dug through some of her BSD commits, major props to her for doing that. But it can all be done without photoshopping traffic tickets to make it look like you got swatted, begging for money to move on twitter [youcaring.com], (When you already earn $3k/month from Patreon [patreon.com]), grandstanding on Twitter for no reason and bandwagoning users against anyone that disagrees isn't the way to do it.
You had the same opportunity to fix Sourceforge all of its' convoluted download mirrors (just use a proper CDN), update to Git, and everything else that Sourceforge isn't and GitHub is. Instead you rested on your laurels and are now trying to use this as one last cash grab before the Titanic goes down.
I don't know where I was going with this either. Just thought someone up top should know why your traffic is tanking and a lot of us are pissed off at you for what you've done.
I still won't forget the time you broke the capslock filter [slashdot.org], I remember BitTorrent being announced and people thinking it was useless, the iPod's lack of wifi and space compared to a Nomad, et al.
Thanks for the fish?
It's happened before, it'll happen again.
The people that have historically been on reddit were a 'techy' or 'nerdy' minority. They were who Slashdotters were 20 years ago. They want to attract bored housewives and people not currently on reddit and they'll never do it with fat people hate or other people having full control of subreddits or big things like Secret Santa, so they got rid of everyone that disagrees. Victoria actually made celebrities do their own AMA. Now they can just have the PR firm phone it in.
If anyone is upset at the changes then you they weren't the target demographic of Reddit 2.0. The type of people that originally came to Reddit a decade ago will find elsewhere. Reddit will continue to exist as a place for bored housewives to continue talking becoming a facebook of sorts. Right now all of those people are shoehorned into a terrible ayout of Facebook (Notice how facebook just added threaded discussion?). They're going to attract the people that want a "better" place to discuss things than Facebook but not actually have any real discussion. Why do you think CoonTown and SRS still exist? Loud vocal minority idiots are very profitable (Patreon).
Write something in a low level, portable language. Someone on slashdot should know how to roll up Usenet, IRC, voting & a web front end into a single set of packages that anyone can host.
Why isn't 'moderation' in a RFC yet? It's something that could probably be nailed out by now as we've tried multiple different methods.
I personally prefer Slashdot's style of moderation for most things. (Where its limited to -2 to +5, and you have taxonomy built in). But for some things I prefer Reddit's where everyone gets a vote. Let people write their own implementations of the RFC and let anyone incorporate it into their website. Slashdot and Reddit are open source in the same way that OpenSSL was. Technically open source but such a pain in the ass to get running for most people it wasn't worth it.
Add on Tor/I2P and you now have all of the above 'off' of the main internet.
"We" can write an alternative. Make a new Usenet. Integrate IRC. Add voting somehow.
Usenet solved 30 years ago the exact problems a lot of people are having with Reddit/Voat/Slashdot. It's distributed, you can't 'take it down'. Make a new RFC and let people host their own 'sites'.
It just needs voting/some moderation on top of it. Make it a simple, straight forward interface. If I want to spin up a 'chat, discussion, et al' website on AWS.
I would peer a node on a discussion if someone wrote it.
I want to know why LOTO protocol wasn't followed.
I cannot imagine how watching someone type for hours is instructional, you could get well in to a book by that point.
I cannot imagine how just sitting reading a book is instructional. I would rather see someone do it. Look at the proliferation of youtube videos on how to do basic stuff like change your oil. Some people are visual learners. Those people used to go into trades where as book learners went to college.
A civil engineer could tell you all the theory behind pipe flow but I want a plumber plumbing my house. Someone that learned through hands on visual training.
Programming and coding is on its way to being a trade and it's sad seeing Slashdotters get on the case of people that are visual learners because they can't imagine why anyone would want to watch someone do something.
People that learn by watching?
Some people learn by doing, some people learn by watching, some people learn by reading.
Reading and doing have been covered for a while but.
My coding technique is closer to the shotgun approach where I throw stuff at the wall, see what sticks, peel it off and throw it at more walls. It's hacky but it's how I code. When something is ready for final public release is when it gets documentation and proper indentation.
Just reviewing someone's final proper code won't help me figure out how they got there.
This just reeks of "Old man yells at cloud", just because it's different than how you learned it or do it doesn't instantly make it wrong or stupid.
I tell them to turn to the study of mathematics, for it is only there that they might escape the lusts of the flesh. -- Thomas Mann, "The Magic Mountain"
