You are correct, sir. First info I Googled was bad. He was still chairman until spring of 2014, so that part still stands. Gates may have retired as CEO in the Clinton Administration, but he didn't retire from a powerful position at Microsoft until Obama's second term.

Balls. First link I went to had the wrong date of his retirement, so there's my crow. He was still chairmen until last spring, so you still have yours, along with the projection.

So this never happened? You might want to learn at least a little bit about the thing you're talking about before you jump in, top off with a snyde remark and deeply embarrass yourself as a result in future.

You might want to stop drunk blogging, as this was the first sentence in the post you were responding to:

• The iPhone was released a year before Gates handed the CEO position over to Ballmer in 2008

Now, you were saying something about embarrassing yourself by jumping in without knowing what you were talking about? And something about snyde[sic] remarks? Gates retired as CEO, but he did not retire from a powerful position at the company.

Chairmen have no executive power.

Who said they did, Slick? Chairmen do have power over the direction of the company, moreso when said chairman happens to be a co-founder, the largest single stock holder, and the previous CEO.

If you think such a chairman has no influence over how a company is run, let the staff keep your computer when you check out of the drunk tank, as you aren't smart enough to use it.

Socialism grants significant power to the state with the expectation that it will use that power for good, and then its citizens are shocked and outraged when the government uses that power to oppress its citizens.

The only connection between those dots is the crap in your brains.

Ermagerd! The horrible oppression of graduating college without 5-6 figures in student loan debt! The health care system that provides better results at a fraction of the cost of for-profit medicine in the United States - a crime against humanity!

Has gun control reduced overall violence

See: Australia.

or simply replaced it with other kinds (knife, blunt object etc)

The 'they'll just use something else' canard died a well-deserved death when, on the same day as the Sandy Hook shootings, a crazy guy in China stabbed a couple dozen people - but nobody died.

You've fallen for a line of nonsense.

Third rate propaganda repeated by a fifth rate sophist. Deporting Assange to the U.S. is not a method of punishment open to Sweden's courts, when he's accused of rape in Sweden.

I have no doubt that you can't figure out the difference between trying to find a citation that something is true, versus trying to find a citation that proves a negative.

No one is going to know what is true until it is proven, fuckwit. And it is your job, as the person making the assertion, to back it up. Skepticism isn't lazy, expecting other people to prove your points for you, is.

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And in 1967, bigots were saying that anti miscegenation laws weren't discriminatory, because white men were prevented from marrying black women just as much as black men were prevented from marrying white women.

They were full of shit, too.

If you want to make false comparisons to a non-skilled, non-professional job, sure. Or did you think the burger flipper at McDonalds was carrying a million dollars worth in insurance in the event of an accident?

less remembered is the $150 million lifeline Microsoft (MSFT) threw Apple (AAPL) in August 1997, when Apple was within weeks of bankruptcy

Repeating an urban legend doesn't make it true. Apple had billions in liquid assets at the time, and even if their fortunes hadn't turned around, they could have sold real estate or lived off of patents. That $150 million was to settle a lawsuit over Microsoft stealing code from Quicktime - nothing more, nothing less.

How exactly did Jobs win the business game? By the time Jobs finally made something of Apple Gates had been retired for 10 years.

The iPhone was released a year before Gates handed the CEO position over to Ballmer in 2008 - but Gates was still chairman of Microsoft last year.

You were saying?

Jobs was a MARKETING genius.

Did Jobs place mines around Madison Avenue and snipers on roof tops to keep everyone else out? Apple is coming up on 40, but no other technology company has been able to craft an ad campaign in all that time?

Hatebois gonna hate.

Those people must just be holding it wrong...

As opposed to all those other cell phone companies? Enjoying your Galaxy 6 with the screen that breaks (as opposed to only bending)?

You mean when the company they work for pays off the loan. Did you remember to pay back your employer for his cost of doing business (out of your pocket) while also remembering to demand all the benefits of membership from your local Chamber of Commerce without paying any dues?