Umm, you could make an argument that those are the same for both nations

Actually, it was Elio that I was looking for. Reminds me of aptera. Turns out that they will start production this year.

Think it is easier? Look at how long we have taken for JWST. Basically, building massively new large sats remains expensive.
OTOH, it is MUCH cheaper to fix the hubble. Even with the shuttle, it was still cheaper. Now, with the coming Dragon along with Inflatable space stations.

0-60 in 5.7 IS slow. Sadly, those who push for cars like the golf will scream that it is lightening fast, when it is out and out a pig. Over the coming years, as electric pick up, it will be increasingly shown that even 5 seconds is slow.

Mod op up please.
note that without human fixes, we would have discarded Hubble. The fact is, that repairing a sat via robot is difficult.

Landing on Venus is trivial. Getting the lander to survive the heat and pressure is not a big deal.

Not sure that I agree with you about n1. Its issues was that they had lousy QA ( still do, which is why they build designs that can handle that ).

OTOH , Apollo was only 200 mph shy of earth escape speed.

F9, delta, and atlas are all capable of sending 7 or more ppl into space.
In addition, dragon 1 and 2 are fully capable of holding 7 humans today.

Going to mars after going to the moon is much easier than going to the moon for first time.
The problem is that going to mars was too expensive because companies became too expensive. Now, spacex and Bigelow are making it cheap to go to both.

BTW, I doubt that you will see any human piss in space.

Wow. That just plain sux. I liked the idea of innovative cars, but running them through traditional makers is a losing proposition. Hey do you know what is/has happened to a similar car maker from new Orleans area? I can not recall its name.

Uh no. The majority of rockets have not been lh2/lox. It is absolutely rp-1 or kerosine combined with lox. And second would be udmh combined with N2O4.

Even now, dragon 1 and dragon 2 are very capable of launching humans into space and bringing them back. What is missing is that NASA and faa would deny launch because full testing has not been completed.

Yeah, america keeps landing larger crafts on mars which is far more difficult than earth, venus, or the moon. As such when ppl claim that we have lost it, they obviously do not read.

But I differ with you about how robots are doing fine without us. They are very limited. In addition, the GOP continues to force NASA to be a jobs program, which means that economically, we could not go to the moon or mars.

musk and Bigelow are changing the economics of it. Both are making it so that not only will america be on a lunar base within 6 years, but we will be at a Martion base within 15 years.