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Comment Re:Ukraine's borders were changed by use of force (Score 1) 304

You don't just ban it, you migrate away from it while providing solutions to the massive hole left in the labour sector.

No, you ban it. The people that then lose their ill-gotten plantations can go pick cotton. They can consider themselves lucky that they aren't punished more directly.

The north had just spent a whole lot of money on other conflicts, and needed the resources.

The north even had slavery at an earlier point in history. Plenty of blame for slavery all around.

But the Civil War still boils down to slavery.

Comment Re:Ukraine's borders were changed by use of force (Score 1) 304

screw over the south economically

By "taking away their property"? Please...

Provide an economical way for the cotton fields to be harvested

There was no moral duty to prop up a fundamentally corrupt way of exploiting people.

While there is officially no slavery

Unless you are talking about the sex trade, there is nothing even close to approaching what was happening in the US South in the 1850s.

Comment Re:Ukraine's borders were changed by use of force (Score 1) 304

Slavery may not have been the direct reason cited for Southern succession, but it was most definitely the cause. Remove slavery and you have no motivation for any of the other stuff. Slavery was a major political football at the time, forcing even the admission of new states to be forced around the issue. Succession only became a real possibility once it became clear that free states would dominate the slave states politically. The South certainly had other grievances, but even collectively they don't add up to succession.

Comment Re:Ukraine's borders were changed by use of force (Score 1) 304

People are exactly the same as they were 150 years ago. I imagine the exact same thing would happen: Texas would declare itself independent. There would be a thorny issue of a bunch of federal property still in Texas. For a short time, there would be an uneasy peace as the Texans tolerated US forces within their borders. Eventually, someone would do something aggressive and you would have war.

Comment Re:Why would I work for free to make Apple rich? (Score 1) 268

I think you are talking past one another. Much of the interest in LLVM has come at the expense of GCC. So while GCC is not "abandoning" the GPL, certainly there seems to be a certain flow in actual users toward less-restrictive licenses. I have personally been affected by this, choosing FreeBSD rather than Linux for my server because of ZFS.

Comment Re:Sex discrimination. (Score 1) 673

I think the nationalism is a hard-learned lesson from long ago... other than some dry academic reasons, there is little tying the entire US together. While there is plenty of anti-immigrant sentiment in the US, I think the strong vein of pro-immigration comes from a blunt reality: the majority of people can directly trace back one or more ancestors who came from another country. Anyone who wants to tie themselves nationalistically to the Statue of Liberty only has to be told that it has a pro-immigration slogan as one of it's most prominent features. It's also self-sustaining... once 10% or so of the population is an immigrant for a long period of time, it becomes normal. More importantly, it becomes impossible to become nostalgic for the "good old days" before immigration. Even the anti-immigrant sentiment that you get today is more anti-Hispanic than anything else.

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