Where did you get the 24,000 figure from??

Actually, I should've said a net increase of 250,000 population through immigration per year. It's actually more like 500,000 immigrants per year.

To put that in perspective, the USA currently seems to get about 1 million immigrants per year. The land mass of England is 130,395 km2. The land mass of the USA is 9,629,091 km2. ~500,000 coming into England every year is like ~37 million immigrants entering the USA every year.

far right rhetoric, nationalism anti-immigrant and anti-EU whargarbl that UKIP is putting out

I'm sorry, but Utter Crap.

The reason many people are voting for UKIP is because they're the only party willing to properly address the issues of the EU and border control. Right now the UK has 250,000 immigrants a year, almost all of which go into England. England is the 2nd most densely populated region of Europe, behind the Netherlands. This is an *insane* level of immigration that is completely unsustainable. To raise this point is not far right or racist or any other such nonsense that has been flung at UKIP.

A lot of it also had to do with "sticking it to Nick Clegg". Equally stupid of course. A lot of people here really suck.

Yeah, the metric martyrs thing was dumb, but bear in mind even UKIP only wanted traders to have the *option* of selling in pounds and ounces. AFAIK they haven't said they want children to be downgraded to retarded imperial measurements in school. If they did they'd probably lose my vote. This seems to be unique Cameron stupidiy.

UKIP, who make the Tories look sane and liberal

Please enumerate the reasons why UKIP make the Tories look sane and liberal. Please base these on the UKIP policies set out in their most recent Doncaster conference.

Yeah I really hate the UKIP obsession with imperial measurements. It's one of their fuckwitty policies (though still not a dealbreaker policy IMHO, unlike the Greens' rejection of nuclear power). However I suspect even UKIP would be more about choice as to which system to use rather than forcing us back to fucking imperial again.

I'd argue that it might be able possible to build peer-to-peer systems instead of centralized ones that use our desktops (because making phones part of the peer-to-peer network is a drain on battery power) and end-to-end encryption, but it would be very hard and there's very little funding or interest in it.

Freenet?

If they were, what else would explain (at least a closer) 50/50 split of male and female people in high powered jobs?

Higher desire to drop out of a job and raise a family. More ambition to do stuff that doesn't require dedicating your whole life to it to be successful. More desire to do "social" jobs like teaching or nursing and not "unsociable" jobs like CEO or garbage collection.

FYI, the debate is about turning "vast majority" to "all" and removing the "nearly".

So you admit that it's all about tinkering round the edges, not achieving some paradigm shift or anything major, then. Frankly, not really UN material.

You know, otherwise it's like having:
Right to self-determination on most cases.
Right to liberty, usually.
Right to due process of law, for the vast majority.
Right to freedom of movement, in almost all circumstances.
Right to freedom of thought, except when it's inconvenient. ...

In practice, that's pretty much all anyone gets.

Why did I read the Putin lines in a George W Bush voice?

She basically claimed to the UN that there no countries in the world where women had equal opportunities (not OUTCOMES, OPPORTUNITIES). She must have missed pretty much the whole western world where the vast majority of women nearly always get equal or preferential treatment.

Hilarious. So people pay way over-the-odds for an Apple phone because it's so thin it could look like a credit card, only to cover it with a thick wrapper because the damn thing's too thin.

There is another name: Great Britain, or GB. Feel free to call us that. :-) Yeah, technically it doesn't include Northern Ireland but we might as well expand the definition to include them. Why not?

Often when we compete in sporting events, we call our team "team GB".

Heh, "As an American" I find you utterly hypocritical. Abraham Lincoln set the military on Southern states that wanted to secede and I bet Obama would too if any state did today. And you have the gall to complain about countries not allowing self-determination?