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Comment Wishful Thinking (Score 1) 312

picking a fight that could pit proponents of gun control and defenders of free speech against each other

This is a bit like Marx writing in 1848 that Communism is a specter haunting Europe. Sure, in seventy years time but in 1848 that was just posturing for shock value.

The idea that somehow that 3D printed guns are going to be a wedge issue to use against the left is fantasy. Domestically we're awash in cheap guns that are way better than anything that could be printed and would take generations to get off the street, even if we had the political will to do so which we don't. Internationally, I have two letters and two numbers which together puncture any pretense of significance for 3D guns: A-K and 4-7. There are over 100 million AK-47s and derivatives in the world -- that's one for every seventy human beings on Earth. And if you wanted to bring that number closer to parity, building more AK-47s would be far more effective.

Sure, in twenty years 3D printed firearms may become a potent transformative political force. But at present it's political theater.

Comment Re:We're so screwed. (Score 1) 237

you think being "watched" means they actually had eyes on him?

it means he's flagged in various databases if he buys plane ticket, particularly to leave the country, or purchases items that are also being "watched".

come on. the real world is like the Blacklist with unlimited agents and unlimited resources.
It's a cool show. James Spader is awesome in it.

But it's fantasy, just like your conception of what "watched" means.

Comment Re:Bureaucrats (Score 1) 312

And did you seriously just reference John Lott, and then use the phrase "well researched" in the same sentence? You dumbass: That's like citing Senator Inhofe as your source for global warming data.

If you would reference Lott, you should a bit about him first:

From ( http://www.armedwithreason.com... ):

Lott’s work is filled with bizarre results that are inconsistent with established facts in criminology.

According to Lott’s data, for example, rural areas are more dangerous than cities. FBI data clearly shows this is not the case. Lott’s model finds that both increasing unemployment and decreasing the number of middle-aged and elderly black women would produce substantial decreases in the homicide rate, conclusions that are so bizarre that they should cast doubt on the entire study.

From ( http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~la... , basically 47 pages of why "correlation is not causation"):

Only 20% of permits were issued to women, but the male and female homi-
cides rate went down by the same amount and the reduction in the rape rate
was similar to the decrease in assaults. Lott speculates that guns are four
times as effective for females. While this is not impossible it seems more
likely that the decreases were caused by some other factor that applied to
males and females equally.

Or from my favorite:

The empirical studies of right-to-carry laws preceding Lott and Mustard’s study may be flawed,2" but if these studies have any value, they suggest that right-to-carry laws and high gun ownership levels either have no significant effect on crime or else increase it Both Ludwig and Black and Nagin conclude that no credible empirical evidence supports the judgment that right-to-carry laws deter crime. At this point, there is essentially no reason for an intelligent consumer of social science research to accept the Lott and Mustard findings.

Of course the right-to-carry cure for violence worked for the Hatfields and McCoys. It worked for Bernhard Goetz. It worked on the American frontier. It is being copied in Rwanda today. According to John Lott and David Mustard, right-to-carry can work for us too.

http://scholar.valpo.edu/cgi/v...

Although let's be honest, you didn't look into shit, and you never actually read Lott's research either. (Helpful link: http://www.johnlott.org/ )

You just picked up the name from the NRA or some other group of idiots.

Comment Re:I can get plans to build a still (Score 1) 312

People also need to get the idea that just cause X was a good law 100 years ago, doesn't mean it doesnt need an update to account for changes in technology, society, etc.

For example: long ago guns were created individually by a craftsman, a gunsmith. It took a while, so output was low. And they held only one shot, that took awhile to reload. There were few rules involved at any stage, on both the manufacturing side and ownership side. There didn't need to be.

But progress marched on. Manufacturing became more efficient. Output increased, particularly with assembly lines. The guns themselves gained multiple shots. The amount of firepower available, and hte number of guns, increased over time dramatically. To the classic bank robbers and their Thompsons. At that point rules began to be adopted, and rightly so: large scale manufacturing needed serial numbers and sales records, while ownership of certain classes (such as the Thompson) was restricted or controlled.

Times changed, and so did the laws.
That's how it SHOULD be.

Hell, we talk about it enough on this site when it comes to copyrights and the expansion of the digital medium, or the anti-hacking laws from the 70s and 80s, and how outdated laws are being misapplied and need updated.

So now we're at the next step in gun tech progress: 3D printing. If it's small scale production, I see it no different from the gunsmith or DIY making for personal use. Larger scale production, I could see the rules that apply to large manufactures coming into play; not much different. There are potential concerns at "undetectable guns" (ie, no metal)....that's largely a thing from bad tv at the moment, but never underestimate materials science. But such a thing could logically call for once again updating law to account for it, as previous security practices taken for granted (metal detectors, etc) would no longer be relevant.

But again that's how it should be: laws regularly updated for the current needs of society, rather than assuming a bunch of farmers and lawyers from 200 years ago running a country of 2.5 million* largely uneducated folks got it 100% right the first time, and knew all there was know about running a country of 350 million folks who even in the worst conditions live like a king compared to those farmers. After all...aint that why they gave us the mechanisms to update the law, up to and including the founding document itself?

(*Just think about that: there 21 major cities (metros) in this country with more people in them now than were in the entire US when the Constitution was written.)

Comment Re:You americans... (Score 1) 312

We won because of the help of French, along with the BIG FUCKING OCEAN between us and England.
England had other concerns in Europe that also demand its attention, and were a lot closer to home.

Guns are the reason we survived long enough to win (and didn't get roflstomped by the best military in the world),
but they aren't the reason for the win itself.
Logistics and allies are the real reason we won.

We essentially created the insurgent playbook that's been used against us these past 14 years.

Comment Re:Standard Law (Score 1) 312

Well, not illegal, but there are restrictions and regulations on the practice. IE, you need a license, and the products needs to be serialized, and you need certains record kept, etc. At least as far as the Feds are concerned.

But States vary and I only know the few I've lived in (and that knowledge could be outdated by now).
Mostly...they had few or none, being good ol boy states.
But in Cali, you can make it for your own use. But you cannot sell that gun you made for yourself down the road, unless it's sale is permitted by and in compliance with the current Cali laws regarding gun sales when you go to sell it. Essentially in this case it's "manufactured date", as far as regulation compliance is concerned, is considered to be the date you tried to sell it.

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