Stop feeding the troll dude. He/She/It banters the word "reasonable" then goes for the ad homenium response. Reading through his posts I'm already where I'm ignoring AC now.

I start with the definition of the word reasonable - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reasonable

Reasonable people don't just follow the chain of command. Illegal instructions ARE supposed to be disobeyed.
Reasonable people don't just follow orders. They should first think about what they are being instructed to do before doing whatever it is.
Reasonable people ASK questions especially if it doesn't feel right.

Reasonable people. I don't see anything reasonable about belittling people (I call it what it is. Being a bully).

And the AC's comment about Congress. Reasonable people believe Congress is a joke considering their historic low approval rating. And the UN? Don't get me started :-)

Already started the process

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/rare-earth-mining-rises-again/

BTW it was my understanding America used to be the major provider over a decade ago and we simply stopped. Shows this was a bad idea. At least now competition is coming back. China may want to rethink their position.

I've been saying I will not vote for either Obama or Romney. I didn't vote for Obama or McCain in the last Presidential election. I have voted however for third party candidates which I believe are needed for real change to happen in this country. Why? Because voting for the same parties that got us into this mess isn't going to solve the problem IMO. But that's what I think.

So I've been told by several friends (and yes they are still friends) that if I wanted to get rid of Obama I needed to vote for Romney and that "your children will forgive you for it". I'm sorry but what?

If I'm to vote for the lesser of two evils and vote for what I perceive as evil, my kids will forgive me for it? Really? What if I don't? I've had many tell me I'm wasting my vote then.

Again really?

It's stunning to me that we keep voting for the same clowns and expect different results. Faces may change but the party goes on. Just not for the other 99% of American's of course. I also understand that the majority of Americans are unaffiliated with either party. (I'm looking for a citation btw). If that's true then Democrats or Republicans can loose control of the government really quick if we Unite.

I don't disagree with you. But it's a crazy government we're running here. Only the clown in charge changes wigs every 4 or 8 years.

http://www.newnetworks.com/broadbandscandals.htm

I've been hearing about this for years but I was under the impression we already paid for 45 Meg up/down under the clinton presidency and while the telco's have been taking tax money for this, they still haven't built out the infrastructure we should have had several years ago.

Anyone know more about this?

It was also my understanding that the National Information Infrastructure was a result of the High Performance computing act of 1991 under Clinton and Gore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Performance_Computing_Act_of_1991

So I have to ask. Why pay for more when we've been paying for it since 1991? I'm curious if other's can help me understand if I've misread what the act is supposed to do.

Works for me. I've been spending more and more on indie's. If the RIAA wants to go bankrupt I'm sure they will get that bailout that politicians seem to enjoy pushing these days.

Seems pretty damn insane to me.

Agreed. The last time I purchased one of their games it ended up installing their DRM and screwed up my windows environment. I ended up reinstalling windows from scratch and throwing their game in the trash after I determined it was their software which compromised my machine (after weeks of troubleshooting).

It's not worth the trouble.

As has been pointed out several times, use != seizure. But you're right. This whole thing is a power grab. God forbid we should have our favorite TV show interrupted to have the evil government tell us that a tornado has touched down near our houses or that some wacko has released sarin into the subway system. No that just won't do. Power hungry scum! who the hell do they think they are?

So you are suggesting the government is all rainbows and bubbles when it comes to doing the right thing for our safety and interests. Thank goodness. I had it all wrong ;-)

So EPIC had it wrong too. Glad to hear it. I guess next you're going to tell us you trust your politicians and the government would never do anything inappropriate.

Got it. Thanks for the clarify :-)

Perhaps I misread section 5.2e when they were talking about the use of private communications. They can claim it's needed and just grab it. It's not like we don't have other examples of that happening with Eminent domain (for example)

"(e) satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;"

It seems I'm not the only one who's reading this into the order

http://epic.org/2012/07/executive-order-grants-authori.html

Perhaps a better understanding of what they were saying in Section 5.2e would help?

(e) satisfy priority communications requirements through the use of commercial, Government, and privately owned communications resources, when appropriate;

I'm not the only one who read this as well

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/06/executive-order-assignment-national-security-and-emergency-preparedness-

I'm willing to learn how else we can interpret this.

thanks

You forgot to quote the part where they are empowered to seize civilian facilities. I'm guessing that was just an oversight or you didn't want to mention it. Whatever the reason. That sent a chill in the air. Sounds a lot LIKE other countries during THEIR instances of 'maintaining the integrity of the communication network' doesn't it.

How so?

There are people practicing polygamy who are breaking laws that are already established in most countries (underage marriages and so on). However these are not issues that are only found in polygamy. They are found in many other alternative forms of marriage as well. And since it seems people are willing to allow alternative forms of marriage, then polygamy isn't something that shouldn't be legalized as long as everyone is of age and consenting to it.

Beyond that the arguments against polygamy are rather weak IMO.

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That's easy enough to fix. it's already illegal to forcibly marry anyone and underage marriages are also illegal. So I'd say since that's the case I'm curious what other issues people have with the practice of polygamy itself.

I hear people say it's immoral but by who's standard? If it's adults and everyone wants it then I don't see the issue.

Just saying...

Personally I'm not interested in Unity. Gnome 3 has issues and KDE was my only option for Ubuntu. If dropping it makes sense for the company then I'm looking at switching to Mint. Too bad too. I rather enjoyed running Kubuntu and my family did also. I could build it but then I'm doing something i wanted to get away from in the first place. Sticking with Debian Linux distro's so Mint here we go!

I seem to recall reading a number of products approved by the FDA which were 'unlikely to post a health risk" to people. At least until after people starting dying or were harmed beyond help. Diet drugs and other items approved for human consumption. We were told they were safe after many studies. Until we've had a LOT more research how does anyone really know?

And yes I've read their reports. I'm not a scientist or play one on TV however I believe their conclusions are premature...

Interesting you mention Babylon 5. Seems DHS and the TSA must have been avid fans of B5 and paid a great deal of attention to seasons 3-5 where similar government groups were discussed in the show. At least it feels like that to me :-)