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Comment Re:Guy saves you from becoming Illinois (Score 1) 22

I'm pointing out if you compare the money the state contributes to the federal budget (by way of individual income tax) to the money they get back (by way of projects their congress-critters push through), you'll find those ratios are higher in the south.

I guess if
- the individual income tax were the sole means of funding the government
- government were run deficit-free, via proper budgets submitted in a timely way, and not endless borrowing
then this would not seem Yet Another Specious Argument.

Comment Re:Guy saves you from becoming Illinois (Score 1) 22

Wealth of Congress Jumps $150 Million.

What does the wealth of congress-critters have to do with what I said? Yeah, they're all for sale, we've known that for a long time - that is how we end up with all these shitty pro-corporate laws because the people can't pool up enough money to outbid the large corporations.

This link substantially refutes your assertion about the South => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...

No, that argument is completely tangential. Money going to a state is not inherently welfare nor is it inherently based on the wealth of the people who live there. I'm pointing out if you compare the money the state contributes to the federal budget (by way of individual income tax) to the money they get back (by way of projects their congress-critters push through), you'll find those ratios are higher in the south.

Comment Re:The Cult Leader will solve the problem! (Score 0, Troll) 124

It's kind of hilarious that a bunch of self-styled libertarians need to have a leader cult, isn't it?

Almost as hilarious as the fact that the leader who wants to bring about the greatest (in scope) fascist revolution in this country is pretending to do it in the name of "liberty".

Comment Re:$3500 fine? (Score 4, Interesting) 286

That's a joke. They should have been fined at least as much as the backwages were.

That's still peanuts.

If you really wanted to send a message, they should be required to pay for an external auditor of the governments choice to come in and perform a top-to-bottom audit on all employee and contractor compensation.

And then get fined for anything fishy.

Comment Re:Guy saves you from becoming Illinois (Score 1) 22

We already know that on the national level it does not parse out the way you want it to; the states with the highest ratio of (money back from the federal government) : (money paid to federal government in taxes) are all in the south where people are bitching that the federal government is holding them down.

Wealth of Congress Jumps $150 Million. This link substantially refutes your assertion about the South => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States
You're technically correct, in that the DC Metro area is below the Mason-Dixon line. Yeah, it's the South, but don't kid yourself: this is the Progressive Plantation House. Precious little agriculture afoot, though. Oh, who cares: keep kidding yourself. You do it so well.

Comment Re:The Cult Leader will solve the problem! (Score 4, Insightful) 124

That sounds suspiciously like an ad-hominem argument. "Most average" Ob/Gyn? What does that even mean, other than to convey dark undertones?

I am using that because his followers make a huge deal about the number of babies he has delivered. However considering how long he was a practicing Ob/Gyn, that number is actually not particularly impressive - particularly if he was the main or only practicing Ob for a moderately populated area.

Shouldn't we be considering the merits of his argument, rather than his background?

From what I have seen, so far all he has been saying is that we're doing it wrong. I haven't seen anything from him about how to do it right. Naturally, his followers jump all over it as gospel.

Obama's Ebola czar (Ron Klain) is a lawyer and former chief-of-staff. Do you think *he's* qualified to tell us what we're doing wrong?

The Ebola czar is supposed to help manage the response. Just as the Surgeon General does not perform surgeries while a member of the cabinet, the Ebola czar is just a manager.

What the heck are you getting at? What's your purpose in posting this?

My point is that there are a lot of people - including one particular cult leader / politician / retired physician - telling us that we're doing it wrong. I have not seen any of these people do anything other than bitch and moan about it being done wrong; I most certainly have not seen them propose anything other than what we are doing.

Hell any proposal for the government to do anything would be automatically rejected as "the wrong thing" by Ron Paul as he is against all forms of government spending, regardless of how many lives are at stake (excluding, of course, his own).

Comment The Cult Leader will solve the problem! (Score 1, Troll) 124

I keep seeing bits on google news about Ron Paul telling us how everything we are doing is wrong in this matter. I'm sure the world's most average Ob/Gyn - and most successful living American cult leader - is also a highly qualified expert on Ebola.

And yes, I know I will be moderated straight down to hell for this one.

Comment Re:Guy saves you from becoming Illinois (Score 1) 22

Milwaukee County extends well outside the borders of the city of Milwaukee. Notice he was not the mayor of Milwaukee; I have not heard of him ever making an attempt to run for that post. When one takes in the full county you get enough conservatives from the wealthy suburbs for a hard-core conservative such as Walker to win an election based on whipping the more economically fortunate voters into a frenzy.

What if (IF!) there was an imbalance, and the people of the state felt as though Milwaukee were sucking them dry, and Walker was merely leveling the playing field? Same behavior pattern as, say, Washington D.C. draining the rest of the country, in the vampire fashion?

That is quite an IF statement there. We already know that on the national level it does not parse out the way you want it to; the states with the highest ratio of (money back from the federal government) : (money paid to federal government in taxes) are all in the south where people are bitching that the federal government is holding them down.

Of course we all know that conservative capitalism depends on keeping some economic classes down as allowing everyone to prosper is bad for business. Setting up a deliberately crippling tax system to prevent people from climbing the socio-economic ladder is one way to do that. Making sure that quality education is only available to certain voting classes is another (that goes hand-in-hand with the previous).

Comment Re:Guy saves you from becoming Illinois (Score 1) 22

Per Wikipedia:

He served five more terms in the Wisconsin Assembly from 1993 to 2002. In 2002, after the resignation of Tom Ament as Executive of Milwaukee County, Walker won in a special election to fill the seat, winning the first of three terms serving as County Executive in Milwaukee County from 2002 to 2010.

So after the special, he won two more elections as county executive.
As deep expressions of hatred for a group of people go, I can't think of any more subtle.

Being as Walker just restructured the tax system to squeeze even more money out of the people who live in Milwaukee

What if (IF!) there was an imbalance, and the people of the state felt as though Milwaukee were sucking them dry, and Walker was merely leveling the playing field? Same behavior pattern as, say, Washington D.C. draining the rest of the country, in the vampire fashion?
Could the Walker administration simply represent an outburst of. . .fairness (to drop the f-bomb)?

Comment So? (Score 1) 22

Capitalism says you're either the dog, or the fire hydrant. Economic seasons occur, much as autumn and winter. Why does Socialism H8 nature*?

*This is a deliberate troll that I think is funny as an example of the non-sequiturial broad jump.
It is submitted as a clinical example of the form for academic discussion, more than as an attempt at personally baiting you.
Any actual blood pressure increase, adrenaline rush, oral foaming, or angry keyboard pounding occurring as a result of this troll are wholly owned by the reader.
The author, Pontius Pilate style, washes his hands of all responsibility for any unintended consequences resulting from this troll.

Comment Re:I don't understand (Score 1) 91

I haven't seen you yet commit once to actually reading the text in its entirety.

The intent here is for the two of us, you (believer) and me (infidel), to go through your little Commie Qur'an word for word, so that you can help me achieve enlightenment.

I'm used to you moving the goal posts at will, which is why I am asking for a direct commitment from you beforehand to actually reading the full text.

Well, we seem to be in violent agreement here, but you appear to have a deeper commitment to talking about how I won't commit than to accomplishment of anything in particular. *golf clap*

I will read it with you, I will not read it for you. You haven't read it yet, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you just might yet read it. If going through it word-for-word will make a difference I will do that, but I will not accept your "skimming" of it.

I promise I will make a fully classical commitment to trying to find something of value in it.

Either commit to reading it in its entirety, or just stop talking about it and stop pretending to be knowledgeable on it.

I've said I will multiple times in this very thread.

Comment Re:I don't understand (Score 1) 91

How many more repetitions of commitment are required to communicate this to you?

Repetition? I haven't seen you yet commit once to actually reading the text in its entirety. It is hard to repeat something you haven't yet said. I'm used to you moving the goal posts at will, which is why I am asking for a direct commitment from you beforehand to actually reading the full text.

I will read it with you, I will not read it for you. You haven't read it yet, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that you just might yet read it. If going through it word-for-word will make a difference I will do that, but I will not accept your "skimming" of it.

Either commit to reading it in its entirety, or just stop talking about it and stop pretending to be knowledgeable on it.

Comment Re:Guy saves you from becoming Illinois (Score 1) 22

So, what is the Milwaukee reference metric which you feel he is required to meet

Just state it by name once is all. Acknowledge that the city - even though it rejected him mightily - exists. His snub of Milwaukee would be like President Lawnchair giving the state of the union and not mentioning any state south of the Mason-Dixon line. You know we would be talking secession (if not worse) if that happened.

Being as Walker just restructured the tax system to squeeze even more money out of the people who live in Milwaukee, he could at least be gracious enough to thank them for their contributions, even if he hates them deeply for not voting for him or supporting any of his ambitions.

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