What do you mean, what happens? The same thing would happen to the kids as to the parents, duh. They'll all die off *well* within a generation. (If I were entering a betting pool, I'd probably go for "within a year", but the exact timeframe is rather difficult to predict without knowing the particulars of exactly who and what they're planning to take.)

There's no way to pack even remotely enough resources to last anywhere near a lifetime, and there aren't any meaningful resources to be found on Mars. If you can somehow manage to haul in enough solar collectors from Earth, it might be possible to keep yourself in air and water until the equipment breaks down, but food's going to be a serious problem, and you can just forget about anything complicated like medicine or the ability to repair the air-making equipment when it breaks.

This is largely a function of the packaging system. I've had Debian systems that I originally installed as sarge and upgraded in turn to etch, lenny, squeeze, and wheezy. I suspect something similar would work for any major APT-based distro.

CPAN is almost as good for upgrading (in some ways maybe better), but it lacks the ability to easily *downgrade* packages, which isn't a big deal for what it's used for but would be a significant deficiency in an OS distro package manager.

> I personally don't have much gripe against sudo

The gripe probably isn't with sudo as such so much as the way it's configured on Ubuntu by default.

In particular, on Debian you use the root password to do admin functions with sudo; whereas, on Ubuntu you use your *own* password to gain root privs. I suspect this is what the other poster is complaining about.

Which way is better depends on the circumstances. For the systems I administer, as it happens, the Debian way is significantly preferable; but I can easily imagine multi-admin scenarios where the Ubuntu setup would result in better overall security and accountability. What's really needed, IMO, is some good documentation on how to decide which configuration is right for any given system (and how to make the change if necessary).

> When I said "pepper" in Spam, I meant black pepper, BTW.

I assumed so.

> I haven't been to King's Island since it was Coney (and moved).

I was there when it was owned by Paramount, but I haven't been there since Cedar Fair took over. I imagine they've probably made improvements (and by "improvements" I primarily mean coasters), because that's how they roll. But I live in Galion, which is closer to Sandusky than it is to Cinci, so when we want to go to an amusement park we normally go to the Point. (As wimpy as Ohio may be in terms of spices, we're as hardcore as any place on earth when it comes to roller coasters.)

> I've been to the "bug house" at the zoo!

Yeah, the bug house was one of my favorite parts of that zoo too.

> She took that exact same formula, then dumped
> spaghetti in it. That's Cincinnati style.

Oh, I've heard my dad talk about Cincinnati-style chili, but I've never had it. I've only been down to Cinci a handful of times (five or six maybe, all told), and chili was never high on my list of things to experience while there. (There *are* things worth going there for. King's Island isn't Cedar Point, but it's not chopped liver either; the Beast alone is worth the admission price, if you ride it about three times. They've also got an excellent zoo and some nice museums -- though one of the best ones is across the river in Kentucky -- among other things.)

> I've heard about "midwest spices". They called it "Spam"
> because it was Ham with Spices. Salt and pepper!

That "salt and pepper" thing is actually a misnomer. In fact, pepper is not widely used around here. Even sausage doesn't always contain pepper. My mom and one of my sisters categorically won't eat anything that contains it, period. (My other sister will eat sausage that contains a small amount of it, though, and Dad likes it in sausage and on eggs. Then there's me: I routinely use cayenne and have been known to cook with small amounts of habanero -- but I did get the idea to do so from anyone in Ohio.)

The most widely used spice in Ohio cuisine is almost certainly cinnamon, which shows up in about a third of all our non-chocolate desserts (and a lower percentage of the chocolate ones).

The other possible contender is onion powder, which is widely used in lieu of fresh onion.

Other spices that are more common here than pepper include garlic (frequently used with onion powder in meat dishes; but a lot of people don't like it, including my mom), cloves (usually with cinnamon in desserts; also used in pickling and occasionally with oranges), nutmeg (usually with cinnamon in desserts, but in tiny amounts), oregano (mainly used in pasta sauce and pizza sauce), and basil (sometimes added to the oregano, albeit in smaller amounts).

Oh, and I realize someone from outside the MIdwest might not agree, but my mom considers imitation vanilla flavoring to be a spice. We use a LOT of that. Whole tablespoons of it, practically every day. I bet I've eaten (food containing) more vanilla flavoring this month alone than black pepper in my entire life, past and future.

> When my grandmother made chili and dumped
> spaghetti in it, we thought she was trying to poison us!

I don't know about putting spaghetti in it (that doesn't sound _bad_, but it does sound rather _odd_), but my mom makes "chili" that does not have any seasoning in it other than salt and maybe a half teaspoon of onion powder. It's basically a hamburger broth soup with kidney beans and diced tomato. Why is it called "chili"? Well, I don't know. I guess the name was available, because nobody in her circle of acquaintance has any experience with the genuine article.

Traditional Midwestern homemade cuisine is, as a general rule, not real big on spices, especially the "hot" ones. Despite this, a lot of the food manages to be highly palatable. The canned fruits and jams are superb. The pasta is good, and the casseroles are generally not bad. The baked macaroni and cheese is great. I'd go through fire for a serving of mom's corned beef and applies. The desserts as a rule are fantastic, as long as you stick with ones made by people over age 40. (Young people keep getting the urge to make desserts out of trendy magazines, which tend to fall into one of three categories: either they recipe is so focused on being easy to make that it's completely lame, like making box-mix cupcakes in the microwave -- seriously, my sister does this -- or else it's so focused on being exotic and new that it's unaccountably bizarre, like Jell-O salad with cheddar cheese and beets and mayo in it, or else it's Yet Another Cream Cheese Thing. Skip all that. Always go for the desserts made by people who are using a recipe they got from an older person, such as their grandmother or an elderly woman from church. Those are always good.) Scalloped potatoes, sloppy joe, cornbread, muffins, biscuits, zucchini bread, pumpkin bread, deviled eggs, goulash (nothing at all like the Hungarian dish by the same name, but that's neither here nor there), baked beans, applesauce, pancakes, bacon and eggs, glazed carrots, cookies, cakes, pies, puddings, buckeyes, all very good.

But the chili... yeah, not so awesome.

> The same place you get your zucchini from, most likely.
> Argentina or someplace like that. It's Summer down there.

Have you ever _been_ to the Midwest?

I live in Ohio (which is more than five times as populous as Iowa), and I've never seen zucchini in the winter time, for sale or otherwise. It's a seasonal product, and by the time the end of the season rolls around, everyone's pretty well tired of it, so there's no reason for anyone to import any more. (Some of the larger grocery chains, such as Meijer, do ship it in from the south in the spring, starting the zucchini season a bit early, before the local growers have any ready. They also do this with fresh strawberries -- although strawberries are also available year-round, frozen. But I've never seen it in the late fall or early winter.)

I've never seen kidney bean leaves at all. Kidney beans come in a can, or in a bag if you get the dried ones; if they're grown around here, I'm not aware of it. We grow green beans (numerous varieties of these) and wax beans for human consumption and huge quantities of soybeans for use as hog feed (and also for export to California and/or Asia). I've seen purple-bean (similar to green beans, but purple) plants a couple of times. I've also seen pea plants (most commonly the sugar-snap variety); but I've never seen a kidney bean plant.

Bay leaves are available year-round in the spice section, but of course they're always dried, the same as cloves or cinnamon sticks or any other spice. (*Most* spices always come dried and _ground_, but bay leaves are usually whole so that you can theoretically remove the leaf from the soup before serving it, which is what the recipes always say to do, though I think most folks don't actually bother with that. Dill, spearmint, and ginger are notable for being spices that are occasionally available fresh, though I think ginger is the only one that's *imported* fresh -- the other two can be grown here and are only available fresh when in season, so far as I know.)

> Relying on a strong protocol and a good password...
> well that's no good - even non-techies can do that!

I've yet to meet a non-techie who has any idea how to evaluate password strength. About half of the population appears to think passwords need to always be four-digit numbers for some reason.

(My first guess at the reason would be that a lot of non-techies watch television and/or movies.)

Realistically, anyone with physical access can easily get the passwords anyway, by using a hosts file (or equivalent) to cause them to be sent to a local http server.

So yeah, if your computer is not physically secure (and most aren't), don't store data on it that you need to keep secret.

It's not SSL as such that's broken.

HTTPS is broken, not because it uses _SSL_, but rather because of the _way_ it uses it, which was designed wrong.

But SSL itself is also used in other contexts, some of which are not broken in the same way as HTTPS. (SSH, for instance, uses SSL in a more reasonable way and consequently is a good deal more secure than HTTPS.)

My home network is wired because at the time I installed it, 100BaseT gear was affordable and provided a great deal more bandwidth than the wireless networking technology available (to ordinary middle-class mortals) at the time. It wasn't even close enough to warrant serious consideration: I could spend 10-20 times as much and get flaky unreliable wireless gear that topped out at speeds that would only be suitable for low-bandwidth usage (e.g., web browsing), or I could spend a significantly more reasonable amount of money and get a network twenty times as fast that would actually be realistically usable for things I wanted to do, like file sharing and X11 forwarding. It was a no-brainer: CAT5 and FastEthernet were clearly the only way to go.

I don't know how the latest wireless (n?) compares to current wired technologies in terms of bandwidth or reliability; maybe it's caught up now and would be fast enough. I also haven't priced it, so maybe it would be cheap enough now. But since my existing infrastructure is fully meeting all of my networking needs, I haven't yet developed a reason to bother upgrading it. I have concerns about the reliability of current wireless networking technologies, but I haven't made it a priority to evaluate these concerns to determine whether they have real merit, because I don't really need to know right now, since I'm not currently looking to upgrade.

When I do need for some reason to upgrade my network, I'll look at the cost and performance and other characteristics of networking technologies available then and pick out whatever makes sense.

So yeah, my network is currently all wired.

First I glance at the title. If it immediately registers as something completely irrelevant to my existence (e.g., anything that sounds like court news or politics), I proceed to the next one. Otherwise, I start reading the summary. If the summary tells me more than I actually needed to know (which is typical when the article is genuinely IT-related but concerns software I do not use, administer, or care about), I proceed to the next headline. If the summary leaves me wanting to know more, I read either the article or the comments, depending on the nature of the subject matter and whether I imagine the source would be more knowledgeable about it than the average Slashdot commenter. (All sources are not equal in this regard.)

> Almost everybody simply regurgitates what they see on
> cable TV, or talks about their offspring.

That would actually be an improvement (though, admittedly, a small one). Around here, 92.7% of all conversation, among people over age 30 or so, consists of complaining about medical problems.

I've actually come to the conclusion that children are more interesting to talk to than adults. I don't remember that being the case when I was younger.

Indeed.

My stats (from the website of the public library where I work) for the entire second quarter show Eight lagging a couple percentage points behind Vista, but since it's increasing, that may no longer be the case at the end of the quarter. (The traffic volume on our site doesn't, in my judgment, really support looking at very much less than a quarter at a time, so I generally don't.)

But yeah, what you said: Vista has been on the decline here since early 2010. It peaked at about 25% usage share (a little more than half of what the then-leading version, XP, had) sometime in the second quarter of that year. 25%, incidentally, is several (perhaps five) times as much share as Eight has now.

It's also worth pointing out that Vista has less than two-thirds the usage share that XP has, and XP has less than one-third the usage share that Seven has. (Again, that's all for the whole second quarter.) Eight has roughly a tenth as much share as Seven.

Also, Eight is in a dead heat with Snow Leopard (Eight comes out slightly ahead of Snow Leopard on my numbers, but statistically, at our level of traffic, it's a wash) and has about twice as much usage share as Jelly Bean.

I suspect Eight adoption will pick up a bit when 8.1 comes out. In a couple more years, it may even manage to attain a higher usage share than XP.

Eight does not, however, appear to be much threat to Seven yet.

> > fly Berlin - Frankfurt - Huston - Austin, with the train
> > solution I get the additional ride to the center of town
>
> ...at which point you find out that there's no way to
> get anywhere else without waiting ... for a bus,

According to Google maps, there are four car-rental places within easy walking distance of downtown Austin. (I used the corner of Fifth and Congress as "center of town", on the grounds that that's where Google plonks me if I just search for Austin, TX. Never having visited Texas personally, I didn't know of a better estimate for where the "center of town" is, so I just used Google's.)

Of course, there are more like a dozen car rental places within walking distance of the Austin-Bergstrom airport terminal, which sort of makes the proposed train thing look like a solution in search of a problem, but let's not quibble over details, eh?