I wonder how much they are duped. I repeatedly see spam-ads in forums for "moneyrelative.com" except that isn't what it is. It's money ... ummm... something else.

And the spam ads always look like somebody misplacing a comment from a completely different forum, "uhh, yeah, what kate said, it's amazing how you can earn yada yada dollars in only a month..."

But they never say what you do for the money.

Now, I *DO* earn yada yada dollars in a month, because I am drafting working drawings for real bridges that get built. I KNOW what I do is valuable. But if you are employed... no, let me adjust that.

There are LOTS of jobs out there for which you can be paid a reasonable looking wage for no particular service other than time spent. How is that? Because the purpose you are serving is reducing the risk to your "employer". So you can get a job flipping houses with no money invested, taking 10% of the profit, but ALL of the loss (that is, bankruptcy) if the market crashes. And that is how your employer steals money from banks. Or you can get a job running drugs: your risk is 20-to-life if caught and you DON'T rat out your employer; or death to you and your family if you do. He makes millions, you make a good , what, maybe $70k in a year. And so on. Now, this money-relative-dot-com (name changed to protect the probably guilty) , I half suspect is nothing more than recruiting US accomplices to the Nigerian gangs. But I don't know, and I'm not willing to go over to the site and risk my browser (in case it's actually recruiting spam bots).

But I rather suspect that most people know that it's illegitimate when they sign up for it. But they hope that it's legit, and even if not, they hope that somehow they'll slide. Because that reeeeeeaally need the money, and they've maxed out their credit cards, and a person shouldn't just give up when they can do SOMETHING to get money.... ... but a lot of times, they set themselves up for that, deliberately, before, when they chose to get the things they wanted, knowing that they'd have to go to the shady side to pay it off.

I don't think it's a coincidence OR a conspiracy. I think that as a comet or multi-part asteroid approaches close to a planet, it breaks up like Shoemaker-Levy 9.

As it misses, the different fragments get accelerated at different angles around the planet. At that point, they will end up with vastly different orbits, all focused on the same approximate point in space.

But from a solar-centric perspective, they all still have the same energy, and thus all have the same period.

So they hold a reunion of sorts after that, all passing close by each other.

And if the planet also happens to pass by again, the astronomers can be watching one asteroid, and not see the rabbit punch coming from a completely different direction.

Just a crazy comment/question... is this systemd issue kindof like the SSL question, in which a specific weak class of random number generator was selected for SSL and PUSHED THRU?

The heavy-handed tactics of labelling the opposition as troll does seem very normal to human nature, but it also seems normal to this particular cloak-and-dagger government we've inherited from the post-ww2 years.

Well, if I remember correctly,first theyor other private corporations fight the government on whether they should be allowed to have propellant; then they have to fight the government on whether they should be allowed to launch. Then having proved their technology they have to fight the government on what new paperwork they have to fill out to sell US-made rockets to the government, rather than buying from the standard graf^H^H^H^Hgovernment contractors like boeing that illegally buy Russian rockets, mark them up, and sell them to the US government for nonbid profits galore.

Then they have to fight the government on quickly having signed an exclusive nonbid contract with said preferred contractors while the previous issue was still being dealt with.

Idon't know, it seems pretty par for the course, and was why Mircorp went under.

Why did you want to know how companies like spacex do it?

One thing I wish I *HADN'T* given up? The old Apple ][. Automating the controls through the I/O port and Applesoft was a breeze. Nowadays, I don't know how I'd do it.

You said that we can't predict volcanos and quakes. That isn't entirely correct. Mt. St. Helens was predicted, and they cleared the mountain of most people.

And we do have signs of impending quakes, including certain mediterranian ants. Also, IIRC, methane gas release is also considered to be a quake precursor.

Which DOES make me wonder, if this methane release is normal, or recent. I guess we won't know, or even have an idea unless we compare it to other areas.

Making the earth's crust rise should not directly affect the strike-slip San Andreas fault at all. However, it has been anecdotally noted on syzygyjob.com forums that thrust quakes seem to be on the rise, along with hypothesizing that the rising crust might release friction allowing exactly that.

For my own part, I've noticed a large increase of small quakes surrounding the great elliptical basin, the southwest of which coincides with the rising sierra nevada; and occasional time-coincident radial forays into the same basin.

So I half wonder if the rising isn't part of a larger-scale process.

Why not... get with small museums and astronomy clubs in remote (low-light-pollution) locations across the US, and use smaller scopes not just at your location, but set up all across the US?

Then phase the scopes together, and use scheduling software to let the museums (and you) use them.

Early on, you should be able to get an image under any weather conditions.

Later, as you upgrade and develop your software, you should be able to get excellent 3-D images of planets, better identify the orbits of asteroids and comets, identify new asteroids (take one image, align it to others, and subtract the scaled values to minimize the overall light. Then look for arrays of speckled dots, that indicate a closer object. )

Eventually, what you could end up with is a very large phased array.

Okay, here's your first citation.

http://www.elizabethriver.org/

Now, having worked on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, I can assure you that it is common in the newspapers to have articles about projects to restart clam and oyster aquaculture, which crashed, resulting in a spike in pollution in the water.

But more to the point, I worked at Atlantic Metrocast, where the land had been taken over by the military during world war 2, and all kinds of extremely toxic munitions leaked in. That site is a superfund site, paid for by the Federal Government, because they are the ones who polluted it.
To the south is Julian Creek, where munitions were just dumped into the water, and the cancer rates and birth defect rates are sky-high.

Oh, I haven't mentioned the shipyards yet. They also were dumping in the river, aah, welding materials, lead, whatnot. AND, when the company at the old Bells Mill site needed to turn the mashland of their worksite into solid land, they used fill from the shipyards. So as you walk along the land at BayShore Concrete, you'll every so often find all kinds of heavy-metal-laden industrial parts there, embedded in the ground.

Oh, and don't forget right by the Gilmerton Bridge where there's a recycling center that tears down ships.

Now, that's just the Elizabeth. Let's move on up to the James, where you have Tenneco/Newport News Shipbuilding, the Navy's ship graveyard, and of course Smithfield Hams. And all that agricultural land that gets sprayed every year.

Or how about the Shenandoah River, which five years ago practically died due to heavy metal pollution in the Shenandoah Valley, and dumps into the Chesapeake Bay through Maryland?

Citation needed, I gave you one; I mentioned a few other places where you can find more.

One hint is that wherever you find the military, destruction is not far behind.

Open your eyes and look for yourself, and quit with the laziness, because that's what it is.

No, we just need to rethink our concept of what a 'live' human means. In the future, it can mean a human who makes a geiger counter jump off the table.

Really, though, the constraint ennvelopes for cars and planes is completely opposite, one from the other. What that means is that a flying car will perform neither job well, which means that even when (not if) invented, it won't sell. And it'll burn up those fossil fuels.

Cars have to be narrow. Planes have to be wide, for stability and lift. Cars have to be strong against head-on, rear-end, and (somewhat) t-bone crashes. Forplanes, that's utterly unimportant, but they need to be strong against vertical shocks, which doesn't matter for cars. Cars should be heavy planes should be light. Cars need to do well under low-maintenance conditions; planes that are under low-maintenance should be retired.

Or, aleernatively... letting a few crimes go unsolved is part and parcel of an authoritarian police state.

Right now, we have on our 'unsolved docket' Lois Lerner, war crimes by US troops in Iraq, high treason by various top operatives violating their constitutional oaths and undermining the rule of law, thus aiding the enemies of the US, embezzlement by bankers who control the Fed, breach of fiduciary duty by BoA under the blackmail of Paulson that he would break the law... and now most recently high crimes by that French bank in criminal money laundering, in one is the biggest ever (9 billion) fine, but unfortunately, we can't find the criminal.

And that's just the US. I haven't hit one percent of the unsolved crimes yet.

Leaving a 'rule of law' nation sucks.

It's doubly a trap when those same companies, which have multiple backup systems on the emails, suddenly cannot recover anything following a series of six separate 'hard drive crashes' on RAID-7 systems, so that the IRS' evidence can no longer prove criminal intent by leaders of the government.

Leaving a 'rule of law' nation sucks.

Which, if this chain of thought is correct, leads to the conclusion that in those 9 cases, either police were NOT corrupt (and so could be foiled) or were corrupt, and wanted to be foiled.

I'm not sure that the chain of thought is correct. In some areas --Illinois for example, I would expect it to be.

Here in Norfolk, we had a young man that decided to just start shooting. He first killed a 17-year old kid in Norfolk, who was waiting at a traffic light.

When the police were investigating, he shot at them, and killed one, severely wounded to other.

There then was another cop who responded, and ordered the shooter to stand down; he started to shoot, and was killed.

Now, I'm going to point out that the cop who died was a really good guy, who would always tell his coworkers, 'it doesn't matter what happens here, so much as it matters what happens in heaven. That's why you need to get right with Jesus.'

Now, with an attitude like that, I suspect he would have been a little slower on the draw. It's too bad he died.

I also think he had a good effect on those around him. It's too bad he died.

If someone's going to die, I don't prefer that the cop be the first one to die. I prefer that nobody dies.