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Comment Re:Your government at work (Score 1) 336

100 years is relatively recent.

Last month is genuinely recent. That's when ISIS burned around 45 people. Then they stuck it on YouTube. They've also are in the process of committing genocide and allegedly selling human organs on the black market.

No where in the world is a bastion of righteousness.

What was the point of making that observation? I find it interesting how people are more concerned about a light case of hypocrisy in the US than a vile organization like ISIS. It's a pretty remarkable case of moral blindness.

Comment Re:It is time to get up one way or the other (Score 1) 1089

Why should I be kidding? If people can't be interested enough to show up at the voting booth, then they aren't interested enough to vote seriously or knowledgeably. I see voluntary voting as superior to mandatory voting for what should be obvious reasons.

Also keep in mind that voting is not just voting for the US President or equivalent positions in other countries. It's also voting for a host of other offices and ballots, depending on the region. Someone who can't be bothered to think about the most well known contests on the ballot, is just going to be random noise when it comes to the smaller issues being voted on.

Comment Re:It is time to get up one way or the other (Score 1) 1089

With voter turnout this epically low, we are at the point where all the eligible voters who don't vote could band together and elect a president and VP who aren't even on the ticket. Whether or not mandatory voting would help is unclear, but voter disenfranchisement doesn't help anyone and neither do all the various voter suppression methods that we see in each election cycle. Something should be done to push back.

I disagree. I find voter disfranchisement, which just means allowing the clueless to stay away from the voting booth, is very compelling as a useful tool of democracy. There's no reason to push back when the system is working just fine. It's worth noting here that Obama was elected in large part by such clueless voters, so of course, it's in the interests of his political interests and belief system to force these people to vote.

Comment Re:Heading away from gasoline/diesel anyway. (Score 1) 190

Experts aren't evidence!

Note that all of your examples have experts on all sides of the argument. If evidence doesn't matter, then there's enough expert testimony to back that cigarettes aren't harmful for your health and that vaccines cause autism. Because experts.

Your example disagreements have definite conclusions, because there was copious evidence supporting one side of the argument. For example, there was a three orders of magnitude drop in US measles cases right after the introduction of the measles vaccine. And similar drops can be seen in other countries as respective vaccines are introduced. And the side effects of these diseases can be just as dire as autism, the alleged side effect of vaccination. There is a very straightforward argument to be made for continuing vaccination, even if it did cause autism due to the people whose lives are saved from these diseases.

Similarly, there is very strong evidence over large numbers of people that smoking harms people, both the smokers and people who are exposed to high levels of second hand smoke.

The special features of these debates is that one doesn't need to listen to the experts. One can study the evidence directly.

What I think is dishonest here is the assertion that the evidence for the claims of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (CAGW) is just as strong as the two examples you gave and just as easy to examine to confirm. It isn't. After all, we don't measure directly any weather or climate phenomena before about 150 years ago. Every is estimated via paleoclimate proxies. And these estimates are very subjective, dependent on how they are manipulated. For example, the first reconstruction of global mean temperature over the past millenium which eliminated the Medieval Warm Period, the "Hockey Stick", by Mann and Jones, turned out to have a serious statistical error, which conveniently caused even random noise to be transformed to the desired "hockey stick" shape, most of the millennium being nearly flat except for a sharp rise in temperature at the end in the Industrial Age. What is particularly interesting is that after this research was called into question, within a few years, supposedly independent research had been released showing the same shape.

Where else in science, would scientists work so hard to recover a broken result? I'd say economics which has long been held captive by a variety of special interests. In most fields, bad research would be a warning sign to look hard at the problem and carefully reevaluate the original claim, rather than rush through new analyses to back the original claim.

And then we have the second tenuous claim, that it is catastrophic. The evidence for this is laughable. A particular notorious example are the claims of extreme weather. They come in two variants. The first are claims that various special cases of weather are due to global warming. These are inherently dishonest both because it is nearly impossible to show that any single incident of weather was made worse by global warming. One shows correlation by looking at lots of data. Even the instrument period of the past 150 years often doesn't have enough data to back these claims.

The second approach is to study the models and make predictions from those, though not couched as such. So it is claimed that say, tornadoes are 33% stronger in terms of damage inflicted than they used to be, or there are more hurricanes, when what is really meant is that the researcher is extrapolating from a model, rather than reality, and no one has a clue yet whether the hypothesized effect occurs because the necessary data isn't yet present.

My view is that in climate research, we have a real life demonstration that experts are not evidence.

Comment Re:the establishment really does not like competit (Score 0) 366

This isn't just a few places in the US getting pissed, it's pretty much every country they've started up business in.

So what? There's a lot of taxi oligopolies out there. Just because people are "pissed" doesn't mean that I should care.

Look, if you want to drive people around and get paid for it, there are things you have to do as a result. You need to carry insurance which covers your passengers. You need to prove your drivers are competent. You need to keep your vehicle maintained. You need to pay taxes on your income. You need to know who you're employing or contracting with. You're using the public roadways to make a profit, so some of that should go back to the public to help maintain the roadways.

I'm quite aware of the schemes used to protect established taxi companies. I just don't think those are worth the bother.

Comment Re:Heading away from gasoline/diesel anyway. (Score 1) 190

But what you're not accepting is that you're looking for evidence in the wrong place.

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In both cases, I won't trust some random person on a forum over the people who have invested their lives in the topic.

You start with evidence and then dwell on experts. Experts aren't evidence. And there are plenty of skeptics and lukewarmers also investing their lives in the topic. What makes your people more relevant than those other people?

Climate change, like medicine, is serious enough a topic that it's above this level of discourse.

No, to the contrary, climate change like medicine is serious enough that you have to know the facts before you commit, if only to understand what behaviors may help or hinder your treatment. Also, you have knowledge that the doctor doesn't have. They do make mistakes or even deliberate pump up their bills. It's not Doc's body or wallet at stake, but yours.

Similar, it isn't the climate researchers' climate or economy at stake, but everyone's climate and economy at stake. The stakes are too big just to take particular expert advice on faith.

Comment Re:LOL (Score 1) 112

You bring up good points. The actual "moonshot", the Apollo program wasn't a good example of how to do a moonshot due to the huge risks and jumps that NASA took. They had their reasons, but it was a tremendous gamble that might not have paid off. And really, if you're speaking of moonshots in the Apollo sense where you don't have the same urgency or the same willingness to gamble a considerable amount of effort on getting it right the first time, then you're doing it wrong.

Comment Re:the establishment really does not like competit (Score 2) 366

Is it that they want to kill competition or is it that they want Uber to abide by the same laws and regulations and pay the same taxes and fees that they do?

I don't have any problems with Uber not following the same laws and regulations, the same taxes and fees as established oligopolies do. But then I don't have any problem with the established oligopolies not having to follow that crap either.

These laws aren't put into place to restrict competition, as much as they are for consumer protection.

I don't buy it. Maybe that was the intent at one time. It's just barrier to entry now.

How many news articles have you read about Uber drivers raping or otherwise assaulting riders -- I can think of several off hand in the last year. How many news articles have you read about legally licensed cabbies doing the same?

I guess Uber doesn't buy better press. Last I checked, rape was illegal in the countries mentioned in the story. Maybe these localities should enforce existing law, assuming there actually is a problem to worry about.

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