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Comment Re:So let me get this straight (Score 1) 686

Yes, after lurking in slashdot for years, I finally signed up. No agenda, other than my opinions are my own. NSA has 2 jobs: spying on the world and securing US communications. I don't know how well they are doing job #1. IMHO they are doing a really crappy job of #2.

Fair enough. But the NSA is also spying inside the United States, which they're not supposed to do, and lied about doing.

Comment Re: Define 'Terrorists' (Score 1) 230

Oh, I believe bin Laden was real and is dead. They wouldn't announce to the world that he was, if there were any chance of him showing up. I'm just not sure he was killed when we were told he was. Maybe he was! I have been told he was, but have reason to be skeptical. I just don't know, really.

Comment Re:So let me get this straight (Score 1) 686

No, he released information to a self-aggrandizing reporter who is very hostile to the US. Who then released everything in self-aggrandizing click bait fashion. The worst actual "abuse" they found was a couple of people spying on their girlfriends. My concern is the waste of taxpayer money. This huge spy machine couldn't stop the Boston Marathon bombers even when alerted to them.

Your opinion of Glenn Greenwald notwithstanding, that just isn't the case. Reporters from the Guardian newspapaer and an independent documentarian were also involved and given the information. The worst abuse they found was the head of the NSA lying to Congress and the fact that what the NSA is doing is illegal and unconstitutional. I assume you are concerned about law breaking by people who work in secret. Or is it all just about money to you?

Comment Re:Define 'Terrorists' (Score 1) 230

Were the Israelis consulted when the Palestinians originally kicked them off the land?

The Palestinians have been offered new land, citizenship in Israel, and many other peace deals. The Palestinians however feel that they will never stop until every Israeli is dead.

Is that like when we offered Native Americans new land?

Comment Re:Name one program Snowden disclosed thats illega (Score 1) 686

And no, I don't mean that YOU think it was illegal, or some judge said was 'probably' illegal. That a Federal court found it to be illegal. It's been over 2 years so this should be easy. I'll wait.

There's this. And this. And there's also this. Yep that was easy. I hope you didn't have to wait too long.

Comment Re:What a surprise (Score 1) 686

Adults respect the rule of Law and civilized society and know that what Snowden did was wrong.

Children don't like rules and think that the ends always justify the means.

Color me completely shocked.

Adults like those in the NSA? They're the ones ignoring the Constitution and lying to Congress about it. Why don't you hold them to the same standard?

Comment Re:Millennial here (Score 1) 686

I dislike Edward Snowden for the same reason I dislike Jesus, Muhummad, and Jehovah: He's a religion shoved down my throat without anybody giving me a chance to make up my mind whether he's done anything good for the world or not.

If you ask me to view the story objectively, he's a con artist who never worked for any of the places he claims to have worked for and drew the allegedly leaked "Powerpoint Slides" himself in Windows Paint. All of this is cooked up by collusion with Glenn Greenwald, a UK reporter who has no business sticking his nose in US policy in the first place, to create a paper tiger bogeyman out of the toothless US intelligence industry the likes of which even Senator McCarthy would have blushed to turn out.

To what purpose? Revolution! Why? So Wrong Paul! What for? End the Fed, Occupy Wall Street, Tyler Durden, we are the 1%!!!

It's this generation of filthy hippies making lots of noise and changing nothing, a Xerox copy of everything wrong with the Baby Boomers. Only at least the Boomers had better music.

Does anybody remember when Slashdot was about tech news? I sure miss those days.

You're a Millennial? You do a disservice to your generation. This has to be one of the more clueless and incoherent posts I have read here in a while. And if you're a millennial, you're too young to remember what Slashdot used to be like.

Comment Re:Believing the lie (Score 1) 686

You can chalk this up to those who still believe in the lie (which then hate snowden) and those who dont. The lie here is of course that the gov has your best interest in mind, and that thing people called "american dream".. turns out it really was a dream.

Most people are heavily invested in the lie. They will fight to defend it and can't be unplugged.

Comment Re:I'm not a Millenial or an American (Score 1) 686

I thought it would be torch and pitchfork time but unless something directly and immediately affects people they just don't seem to care.

What you are seeing is not necessarily apathy but fear, a confluence of external influences stoking the internal fear of individuals. People are generally terrified, and to acknowledge or understand that among the perpetrators of terribles are the same institutions and authorities they have been relying upon for protection is more than they can bear.

This is an insightful point. There is a lot of psychology mixed up in this.

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