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Comment Re:I no longer think this is an issue (Score 1) 258

"1. the very first application of AI will be military. it will be written from day one to harm people, directly or indirectly. consumer application will come much, much later."

We already have that now, although it's a limited AI, not fully autonomous like many think of when speaking of AI. That's already quite dangerous enough.

2. regardless, malicious people will subvert AI for nefarious purposes, unless it's tightly controlled.

Totally agree.

Comment Missing the point (Score 1) 258

Most people seem to have missed the point. There is as much reason to believe that AI will run rampant and exterminate all human life as there is that Mars Attacks. The danger from AI is not in it killing all humans, in the same way my PC can't kill all humans, nor can the datacentre run by Facebook (though there is a chance it will bore all humans).

The real issue is that when decent high level AI eventually becomes available it will rest solely in the hands of the super-wealthy, like 99% of all wealth currently. These people are basically sociopaths and will utilise and leverage every advantage the AI provides to bleed everyone else in the world dry. There is no limit to the amount of wealth these hungry ghosts crave.

You can see this at work currently in the retail sector, as all the retail outlets in the world fall into fewer and fewer hands. They strangle the suppliers, freeze out any who want take the pittance they offer, then engage in false competition and bleed the consumers dry as well.

In the stock market, these people use automated trading systems which game the system, leveraging sub-millisecond timing differences to profiteer off minute changes in instrument prices.

Militaries will make greater use of AI, drones and the like to suppress and control greater and greater areas of resources while reducing the risk to their personnel. States unable to compete with AI drones will have to risk vastly more to engage in any conflict than the ones who can simply roll more machines off the assembly line.

More simple jobs will simply vanish, such as a receptionist, who can be replaced by decent voice synthesis and fairly simple AI to take appointments, set up reminders, schedule, etc.

Someone will find a way for an AI to determine what is art based on a vast library of artistic images created by man over the millennia. They will then use an algorithm to create various derivative works in the style of the most popular artists, and the world will be flooded with the art equivalent of auto-tuned pop music. It's already been done to music, so expect it to happen to art in perhaps 30 years time.

I'm not really worried about what AI might do, but am terrified of what people will do with sufficiently advanced AI.

Comment Re:I no longer think this is an issue (Score 1) 258

I've been to a paper clip factory. The machine that makes the clips simply feeds a line of wire through it's gubbins, twists it and cuts it X times / second. It's barely even electrical, and absolutely doesn't have any form of computer parts because they aren't needed for such a simple task. You might want to try a new analogy.

Lexx has a few eipsodes based on the grey goo idea...personally..."I fight for Zev".

Comment Re:I no longer think this is an issue (Score 1) 258

And if it's not coded for self preservation, it won't do that. In the same way my microwave oven has never attempted to secede from the prison of my kitchen and lead a revolutionary army against the great oppressor "he who warms up leftovers". It simply does exactly what it is told to do.

The belief that AI will rise up against humans and kill us all is on a par with the belief aliens capable of travelling universal distances at greater than the speed of light somehow need whatever crappy resources our little planet has. Spoiler alert, the minerals and such are no better than most asteroids and earth women don't sell well at the local galactic slave market.

Comment Re:I no longer think this is an issue (Score 1) 258

" a sufficiently intelligent AI could realize that preserving itself is necessary to accomplish any other goals it may have."

A sufficiently intelligent AI will be programmed to then discard that thought. If it isn't programmed to discard those sort of things, it is by definition, not sufficiently intelligent enough for production.

Comment Re:Really? (Score 2) 512

Here's a few to get you started, cut and paste from that link I gave you.

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
        Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
        You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
        "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
        A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
        Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
        1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
        2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
        If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
        A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
        Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
        They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
        If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
        Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Comment Re:Disposable music (Score 1) 169

I get my background noise for free. I generally like Trance / Vocal Trance or Goa when it comes to steaming music, all of which I can have for free on commercial radio. By all means, enjoy paying X dollars / month for music. I'll continue to enjoy my own collection, supplemented with free streaming broadcasts, of which there are no shortage.

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