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Comment Re:What? Why discriminate? (Score 1) 700

You realize that the tax-exemption does render unto Caesar and God what is theirs, right? The minute that you revoke tax-exempt status for these Churches, they can always start a PAC? They can also start to preach politics from the pulpit. Right now their tax-exempt status is a a balance and check.

Either you live in an alternate reality or you just haven't been paying attention to U.S. politics for the last 50 years or so. Religion has been influencing politics very directly since the Dixiecrat era and the Southern Strategy. Here's a video of a church pastor telling his parishioners how to vote just recently. So, wanna tell me about that "balance and check" again?

Comment Re:A first: We should follow Germany's lead (Score 1) 700

Who defines what is charitable work? Is saving souls not charitable?

I don't know, can they prove that they were saved? Remember, in the Laws of Man that we all must ALSO FOLLOW, it's not what you believe, it's what you can prove. A charitable organization can point to tangible results of its work and prove it is doing something to help others, a religious one cannot. There's your justification, and the lack thereof.

Comment Re:A first: We should follow Germany's lead (Score 1) 700

Again, I wish I had mod points. I say that churches are no longer tax exempt. Nothing says that the church can't own a charitable organization that does real charity and can prove it and that entity be tax exempt. Of course, the law would have to be written to avoid abuse of that caveat and having all church employees work for and all revenue go to the tax exempt entity.

Comment Re:A first: We should follow Germany's lead (Score 1) 700

From:

The exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3) are charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals.

I'm really getting tired of shooting down your false assertions, guys. Revoking tax exempt status for churches would only revoke tax exempt status for CHURCHES!!!!

Comment Re:A first: We should follow Germany's lead (Score 4, Informative) 700

That makes no sense. The 501(c)3 tax code doesn't mention churches or religion at all.

Umm, yes it does:

The exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3) are charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals.

If only I had mod points...

Comment Re:A first: We should follow Germany's lead (Score 1) 700

Leaving aside the problems this would likely pose under American law, in the United States it's generally the case that non-profit corporations are not taxed at any level of government.

How does paying taxes keep you or the church from freely exercising a religion? Please use as many big words as you like. I am college educated. Keep in mind that no one is talking about taxing churches differently than any other for-profit organization, and if you think a church is non-profit you've been hitting the sacramental wine a bit too heavily. And you better read this before you say something else that isn't true and parrot the other idiots in this thread.

From:

The exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3) are charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals.

Comment Re:Why is it even a discussion? (Score 1) 441

Without federal regulation, yes. Without local government involvement, no. Without easement access (which is granted by the municipal government), the company running the fiber to the house needs to negotiate a separate land usage deal with every property owner between the house and the connection point.

Comment Re:Government != Internet engineers (Score 2) 441

Last time I checked, the Internet was an Information Service. That designation was created by Congress for some reason... You can't have it both ways.

Are you still throwing that bullshit around? The last time you checked, it was an "Information Service" because the FCC reclassified it as an Information Service in 2003. It was under Title II before that, and moved OUT of that classification by the FCC.

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