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Comment Pay to the order of (Score 1) 385

No one in Europe is going to send checks/cash via mail, unless they are special checks that can only be cashed in by "the owner/the addressee" showing a passport.

Checks have a "PAY TO THE ORDER OF" field naming the addressee. The bank matches the name against the ID presented by the person presenting the check or against the name of the owner of the account associated with the deposit slip or ATM card.

Any internet service does it.

That's fine when you're at home. But checks work even where there is no Wi-Fi, and even if you aren't carrying a tablet or laptop.

And ofc you can mail the transfer order to the bank, so you have no need to go there in person

U.S. banks take check deposits the same way.

Bottom line: payment habits are a cultural thing.

Agreed 100 percent. Checks happen to be the most convenient payment method in certain circumstances in the United States. It's just that there's a perception among certain experienced Internet users that the U.S. culture is inherently "backward" in this respect.

but anyway, I'm an Atheist

I guess my experience is colored by the Catholic, evangelical, and JW groups I grew up in at various parts of my life. Substitute any other charity that takes donations in person.

Comment Re:No thanks. (Score 1) 95

So is the pancreas, it's a reactive system to external demands as well. So I guess it needs a sugar pump...no wait...it either dampens or allows glucose production by the liver as needed. Seriously, do you know how this stuff works? I suppose that could be a problem of course if you don't have a liver...but then again, if you don't have a liver you're going to have more serious problems anyway.

Comment PROTECTED speech (Score 1) 144

Fundamentally, not all communications are speech, because some communications have explicit direct non-speech results.

According to the Supreme Court, not all communications are PROTECTED speech. (They're still speech. They just don't enjoy the First Amendment protections because they're ALSO parts of crimes for which one can be punished - and in some cases (such as threats or criminal conspiracy) the speech is all it takes to commit or be a participant in the crime.)

Because speech is explicitly mentioned as protected in the First Amendment (and anti-government speech is also specifically a necessary part of another protected right - petitioning the government for redress of grievances), the court sets a very high standard for laws making some kind of speech a crime: Such laws may be overturned just because they have "a chilling effect" on protected speech, by making people avoid such protected speech out of concern that it might be prosecuted.

Regardless, Congress doesn't get to pass laws that preemptively muzzle people or block publication. They just get to pass laws to punish them AFTER they speak (or print, ...) some explicitly illegal content.

Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater isn't speech.

Funny you should mention that. The phrase "FALSELY shouting fire in a crowded theatre" originated in a WWI Supreme Court decision declaring that distributing anti-draft leaflets to people of draft age was not protected speech.

My favorite approach to "Fire in a Crowded Theatre" was Abbie Hoffman's (when being interviewed in a crowded theatre):
    Interviewer: "But surely you don't advocate shouting fire in a crowded theatre?"
    Abbie: "FIRE!"

Comment Re:Payment without telecommunications cost (Score 1) 385

how do individuals pay other individuals through the post

You don't. Why would anyone do that?

Attaching a gift of money to a birthday card, for one. And major banks in the United States have deployed ATMs that use handwriting recognition to allow depositing a check by inserting it into the ATM.

You use a wire transfer.

The bank doesn't charge anything to process a check. Here in the United States, "wire transfer" refers to services like Western Union, which charges a hefty percentage to process a wire transfer. Even if a bank offers a wire transfer for no fee, you still have to know your recipient's bank account number, and you still have to either "go to the bank IN PERSON" or subscribe to cellular Internet service to set one up.

And how do churches collect donations?

Cash

To obtain this, you "have to go to the bank IN PERSON".

And actually, are there really people giving donations to churches?

Yes. Some have a donation box near each of the auditorium's exits; this is the common practice for Jehovah's Witnesses. Others pass around a bag or tray into which members of the congregation drop cash or checks.

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