Thanks, I just may. I wonder who the other person was?

B&N has one too, I may just go for both and look for more.

Amazon was an experiment. I read the library's copy of Andy Wier's The Martian, really liked it, and googled to see if he had any more titles. Wikipedia said that he couldn't get a publisher so he introduced it as an Amazon ebook, it went to their best seller list, and a publisher bought the hardcover rights for a six figure sum.

So I thought, what the hell, why not give it a try? I thought it might give me extra exposure, but I was wrong.

May ... may.

However the shirt may be just fine. And the shirt you pay $25 for ..may.. be a piece of crap (lookin at you land's end).

The software may be good- or it may be a piece of ill designed crap written by a 1st world citizen who is a better huckster than programmer.

But the money is in your hand.

Yes. I worked with an office which had 400 indian programmers and 400 american programmers. They laid off 350 of the american programmers and did just fine.

I worked directly with the indian coders. They had some very solid coders who were better coders than the standard american programmer. And at a business that isn't focused on IT, it's pretty hard for them to retain really good programmers. Heck- it's hard to hire them in the first place.

Back in 2002, the indians were very good- I think it was mostly their masters degree candidates. By 2005, they sucked pretty bad. But by 2010, they were decent again. The only issue was the turnover and the failure to say "no" to management (instead saying "I'll do my best"). The other issues you mention were on the wane since 2008.

I've used AVG and Avast plus malwarebytes and the microsoft cleaner.

They are free.

It's been 20 years since I got a virus but I've had several caught attempts.

I left AVG a couple years ago and went to Avast. It's a little pushing on upselling lately.

I've had to clean virii off of friends computers. Malwarebytes is good for that.
Avast is also good for that.

Avast has a "web page reputation" feature.. but to be honest, the only thing it ever flagged for me is the site that records all DMCA filings (which I knew was safe which mean the corporations had corrupted Avast's rating system for that page).

I'm not sure how the hell my friends get them. I has to be lol cats or something like that. I got to a few porn sites now and then and never had a problem.

Malwarebytes has been effective for cleaning a machine that was infected already.

I don't keep the microsoft cleaner on disk but download it as needed so I always have to look it up.

I think I'm one of the two who bought from Amazon. I don't care if you put it up for free. If it really bugs you that much, take the two bucks and give it to the next homeless person you see, or in the tip jar somewhere, or whatever. (Actually, I thought I said before that you could do that :)

Right now the GT750 is the best price/performance. Save the $25 to $35 bucks just isn't worth it in the case if you are a gamer.

If you are not a gamer, then sure.

Yes but money is easy to measure.
And results are easy to measure.

If the IT consulting company can deliver the results for less money--- or more importantly- if management merely believes that the IT consulting company can deliver the results for less money-- or even more importantly if a companies competitors are all using IT consulting company and delivering more services and product while also making higher profits-- then the jobs will flow away.

It won't really stop until we have wage parity between the two skilled populations. Before- when you had to physically be present, it didn't matter so much. But today you have lots of working from home and virtual offices. Of more expensive programmers- only the very best will get the jobs. The average work/duties can be done by average employees in other countries. It's a very difficult fact.

It will resolve it self- but it's going to take a couple generations.

So what exactly is the difference between a shirt made from quality cotton with $15 an hour labor that costs $25 and a shirt made from quality cotton with $1 a day labor that costs $5?

What is the difference between a standard business program (nothing super advanced- a well recognized pattern) turned out by a $9,000 a year programmer in india vs the same program turned out by a $90,000 a year programmer in a 1st world country?

Get what you pay for mainly applies when the savings came from material quality. It is very hard to judge the quality of human labor other than by results.

Indian and Chinese labor have challenges (face being a big one- never saying "no, that's impossible" is another one) but they are on parity with u.s. workers and have been for the last 5 to 7 years.

It would be nice if it were that simple.

How can a corporation paying $80k to workers compete with another corporation paying $15,000 per year for similarly skilled labor?

The H1B is abusive and addressing it will slow down the trend.

But indian and chinese (and other) labor won't equalized until after 2045 and they will have a competitive advantage until wages equalize.

I wish addressing H1B's would fix the problem. But fundamentally, as long a 6 year masters degree can live "well" on $30,000 in china or india (and costs under $16k) while an 6 year masters degree (that cost $80 to $160k) requires $70k to live "fair" and $120k to live "well" things will stagnate or get worse for the higher paid person.

Chinese and Indian labor have challenges but they are "good enough" in most cases.

So if the door is shut- the likely result will be
a) wholey owned subsidiaries in other countries.
b) outright elimination of IT function here and purchasing it cloudwise from there.

It's not just IT- it's also radiologists, actuarials, and any other kind of easily offshorable expensive highly educated positions.

For India- at current rates we won't be at parity until 2065.

We really need to stop pumping inflation in the 1st world countries and deflate for a while to equalize labor costs.

And Cmdr Taco

moot is now free to join Sherrod DeHippo in obscurity.

Mosquitos do not bite below 58 degrees Fahrenheit so that puts a lower limit.