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Comment Re:Depends (Score 1) 7

... just fix it and show them how to avoid needing it. You have to be careful not to give them enough rope to hang themselves

"Showing" them has proven futile. But, I did discover "hooks" yesterday on the server-side, and thought of perhaps restricting their ability to delete files. I'm sure I'll get more requests that way, but to expand on emeraldd's post, I'd feel better helping them on something the can't do rather than something they won't do. Of course, I'll have to leave that to his PM to decide if that sounds like a good idea.

Slow progress has been made. They don't use Tortoise, so I had a side-by-side comparison with the PM to compare features between it and the subclipse plug-in. Needless-to-say, I'm very impressed with the subclipse capabilities. We discovered lock stealing (which I couldn't find in Tortoise SVN), and I had him humor me by right-clicking on an entry in the "affected files" pane in eclipse's revision history view, and wouldn't you know there's an "export" option. I was worried at the beginning of the meeting, because he kept asking me, "How does Tortoise SVN interface with Eclipse?" Not until later did I think of a come-back of, "Kinda like how FTP interfaces with Notepad." Oh well. We're making subtle progress, I guess.

Thank you, everyone for your comments.

Comment Re:Depends (Score 1) 7

Well, I'm not sure either of us has been declared CM admin. He's a java developer using Eclipse with the Subclipse plug-in. My e-mail suggested a solution with Tortoise SVN, since he's running Windows. His PM runs linux, and I pointed to an alternative method with the command-line method in that same e-mail. Today, we discovered just how simple it was to do from the Eclipse IDE.

From my point of view, I feel a developer should own their code. If they want to make a branch, they just do it. If they want to merge that branch, they have the user interface in front of them that provides the capability. If I was a developer, I'd want that control. It's simply bizarre to me that there is some abstract line separating these tasks into a "development" and "administrator" domain. I can maintain the server, and the database that makes up the repository, and make sure it's backed up, but it doesn't sit well with me to start messing with their files.

What really bothered me is that he AND his project manager were claiming it was an issue with the "server". (I came in to find his PM getting "Working copy is locked ... " error on his linux machine, and had to explain what "working copy" meant.) Considering I took a two-week old working-copy, ran an "update" (without server errors), a "copy" from the previous revision (without server errors) and a "commit" (again, no errors) ... I fail to see how the server was at fault. For 3 years they've had some strange reluctance to embrace Subversion the way I expected.

Submission + - Subversion - Developer or Administrator Tool? 7

Bipoha writes: I'm a system administrator. Recently a developer accidentally "deleted" 262 items from a project in the Subversion repository, and asked for "guidance" in an e-mail to his project manager of which I was carbon copied. I never had to recover files in Subversion, so I researched, tested and documented the steps in a Sunday e-mail to him on how to recover the files. Monday morning came, and it wasn't resolved, so I sat down and fixed it in less than 10 minutes using the steps I submitted to him via e-mail. He claims I was "passing the buck" by giving him instructions instead of fixing it. My question is, "Where do our respective roles begin and end?"

Comment Re:Family Provide Our Best Stories (Score 0) 855

In Soviet Russia, the new overloards welcome you!

Actually, for proper "Russian Reversal" grammar, you need to make the subject singular (without articles), then fix the verb, and "you" has to be all caps, italicized and followed by exactly two exclamation points. Wikipedia

So it would correctly be: "In Soviet Russia, new overlord welcomes YOU!!"

Glad to be of assistance. :)

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